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Old 08-16-2003, 07:35 AM   #31
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Yes Bernard! I love your site. It is a great resource for new ideas and new ways of looking at things. I heartily endorse publishing your stuff. Get it out there so it can be assessed, strengthened and developed.
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Old 08-16-2003, 09:40 AM   #32
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I have read a bit of it, and it contains a lot of quotes from the ancient sources and inferences from the quotes, sometimes agreeable and sometimes not so convincing. What I am saying is that I have read a lot of books and there are definitely other bodies of work that are interesting, substantiated, and thorough and contradict yours--which doesn't mean that yours is wrong,
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I won't object about most you are saying here even if I am not agreeing with other works being as thorough as mine. But overall, your assessments are fair.

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only that I don't understand your presumption that only you have found the right way to approach the subject.
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Here I object. How can you say that when you read only a bit of my website? Furthermore, I know you are leaning towards HJ the sayer, and my site is against that. That would explain your reluctance.

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It is good that you are not rigid--but how much critical review has your work received?
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Well, I got some from my readers, as I displayed on this page:
comments from readers
With the most favorable excerpts in front of that page:
introduction
Of course, I got many messages from conservative Christians which were not favorable (and not shown) but were only based on faith but not on facts. Nobody yet challenged me on any of the major elements of my reconstruction, in the main part or the appendices.
I would love to get more critical reviews from persons who know the subject well. I do not care about my ego, I want to get it right and always prepare to reconsider things. But how? I'll come to that next.
Please note my website is on the www, and among the top five under "historical Jesus" on Google and Yahoo! I made every efforts to show it on the web and I get 200 to 500 picks on my pages (combined) every day. And if I made big claims in my intro page, inviting challenges, it is because I wanted to attract criticism (hopefully constructive!). That does not work and I am getting the silent treatment from the "powers". For example, my website has never been commented on Xtalk2 since I left many years ago.


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Perhaps you should attempt to publish something in The Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus or The Journal of Higher Criticism or New Testament Studies to submit it to the criticism of those who study the subject seriously.
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Good idea! I may try again. I think I tried to have my site posted on the website of the later organization, but I got nothing back.
What is against me for that? Here it is:
- I am not a scholar, I have no knowledge of any ancient language.
- I am not from Academia
- My literary skills are bad. It takes me a long time just to get a paragraph half decent.
- If reformated to be published on paper, complete rewriting would have to be done (and not by me!). Furthermore, I would need authorizations in order to legally used the quotes from bibles and other books.
- My "reconstruction" would have to be "jazzed up" in order to look more controversial and extreme. Those days, if you do not have that, you do not go anywhere.

I am open to practical suggestions.

Now I have to reply to Vork.

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Old 08-16-2003, 10:04 AM   #33
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Yes Bernard! I love your site. It is a great resource for new ideas and new ways of looking at things. I heartily endorse publishing your stuff. Get it out there so it can be assessed, strengthened and developed.
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Great thanks, Vork!
I addressed your other comments in my previous reply to Peter.
Thanks again
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Old 08-17-2003, 08:52 AM   #34
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Nobody yet challenged me on any of the major elements of my reconstruction, in the main part or the appendices.
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OOPS!, I did not mean to ignore (or worse, disregard) the critics from Peter & more so Vinnie on my appraisal of GThomas, from which I learned a few things. So, there is one challenge, fully acknowledged.
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