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Mageth · 10-31-2002, 12:07 PM

The constitution shows it roots in religion partial to christianity. All are equal is a religious idea. We are not all equal.

Where does the Constitution say "all are equal?"

Zentraedi · 10-31-2002, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by Mageth:
So, walk across a street, do you look to see whats coming first?
I think it might be a good idea to look.

That cars may be driving on the street does not qualify as "unknown." I've crossed streets before, and I know it's best to look both ways before crossing.

You don't know what is coming unless you look, therefore it is unknown.

xeren · 10-31-2002, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Mageth:
The constitution shows it roots in religion partial to christianity. All are equal is a religious idea. We are not all equal.

Where does the Constitution say "all are equal?"

I think he's thinking of the declaration of independence. Which does not have any bearing on our government.

Mageth · 10-31-2002, 12:13 PM

You don't know what is coming unless you look, therefore it is unknown.

I know it is dangerous to cross a street without looking. I know there may be a car coming, that's why I look. I don't fear the car that's not there (the "unknown car"); I fear the car that's there (the known car).

Zentraedi · 10-31-2002, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by xeren:


Man, that guy is SO scary. I do.

BTW Zentraedi, you still haven't answered the basic question:

Where did God get his morals?

[ October 31, 2002: Message edited by: xeren ]

I don't know. I would guess it was imagined by man. Whatever works.

Zentraedi · 10-31-2002, 12:20 PM

Anyone with religious beliefs involved in writing the constitution will have an effect upon it. Many of our forefathers morals stem from religious beliefs.

[ October 31, 2002: Message edited by: Zentraedi ]

xeren · 10-31-2002, 12:21 PM

No, where did YOUR god get his morals?

The reference to Sephakim of Quoba was a joke.

Amazon · 10-31-2002, 12:22 PM

...and many of our founding fathers' aversions to religion had a lot to do with the way it turned out, too.

Zentraedi, do you have any questions about my post on the first page?

Zentraedi · 10-31-2002, 12:24 PM

I don't believe if a god exists, it would have morals.

[ October 31, 2002: Message edited by: Zentraedi ]

Viti · 10-31-2002, 12:26 PM

Zentraedi, you went from incredibly verbose to one line responses....why?

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10-31-2002, 12:07 PM	#31
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	The constitution shows it roots in religion partial to christianity. All are equal is a religious idea. We are not all equal. Where does the Constitution say "all are equal?"

10-31-2002, 12:13 PM	#34
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	You don't know what is coming unless you look, therefore it is unknown. I know it is dangerous to cross a street without looking. I know there may be a car coming, that's why I look. I don't fear the car that's not there (the "unknown car"); I fear the car that's there (the known car).

10-31-2002, 12:21 PM	#37
xeren Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Place Posts: 285	No, where did YOUR god get his morals? The reference to Sephakim of Quoba was a joke.

10-31-2002, 12:22 PM	#38
Amazon Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chicago area Posts: 210	...and many of our founding fathers' aversions to religion had a lot to do with the way it turned out, too. Zentraedi, do you have any questions about my post on the first page?

10-31-2002, 12:26 PM	#40
Viti Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Down South Posts: 12,879	Zentraedi, you went from incredibly verbose to one line responses....why?

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