David M. Payne

Good luck Blondegoddess, my last marriage faltered in part because of my lack of belief and my writings on it. I hate to see that your kids are still being brain washed by the God/religion thing. Hopefully you can give them a balanced perspective on it all.

David

"God and religion, the oldest scam in history, and it still sucks them in today. So free your mind, and your body will follow!"

thebeave

I assume he believes that the Bible is the word of God. Show him all the horrible things in the Bible that the Lord commands people to do, such as killing unruly children, adulterers, infidels, homosexuals, etc. There are many dozens of examples,especially in Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Like most Christians, I'll bet he doesn't know anything about it. Tell him that if that's the kind of morality that God prescribes then you are extremely proud not to worship or obey that God. A good source of info for Bible atrocities is www.skepticsannotatedbible.com.

[Actually, you should do this at your own risk. It could make the situation with your husband worse!]

David M. Payne

BG, you might just ask him what kind of God drowns everyone, except one family, and that includes including innocent babies, children and animals for the sins of a few. Genesis 6-9, the tale of Noah and the ark. This has never made sense to me, and I've never seen anyone successfully defend this passage.

You do have a real problem with this though, because of the children, so go slowly, and try to get him to see that you are still who you are, and not someone who has lost their moral foundation.

David

"God and religion, the oldest scam in history, and it still sucks them in today. So free your mind, and your body will follow!"

beth

Thanks for those suggestions. They won't work. He's well versed in the Bible. He knows all the little tidbits. He was just telling me yesterday that we should resolve this whole Iraqi thing by following god's example and killing the entire Islamic population. He said we should glass them all. So he just sees what god did as righteous justice.

My daughter had to be taken to the ER again because she was misdiagnosed with an illness and it was left untreated. She had to receive an I.V. drip. During this the time that we were awaiting the results, he kept telling me there were no atheists in the children's ward. Then he kept telling me that God brought this on as judgement. That we have to get back into church. But he is more tolerant of me since. He basically avoids talking about God to me. I do think he figures that this is all my fault though. My daughter's fine, BTW.

HelenM

Yikes! That sounds very scary

I'm glad she's ok.

I suppose if this had happened a little while ago you'd probably be worrying about whether it was God's judgment on you too...I'm glad you don't have that to worry about.

(I know I'm a theist but I decided not to worry about such things - I won't say any more about that though, on this thread and in this forum)

Helen

beth

Thank Helen. You seem to have a healthy grasp on your faith.

HelenM

Thanks! I try not to let what I believe scare me to death or guilt-trip me or push me into being miserable

(I've been there, done that, especially when I was [mentally] ill - it sucks - never again...)

Helen

Never

So he believes in genocide. wow. I am obviously not versed in his Christianity.
And he can tell peoples beliefs (religion or lack thereof) by their jobs? Or by looking at them? Or did he interview the employees to determine there were no atheists in the children's ward? So on a recent night in the hospital I work at when 3 out of 5 of the evening shift were not Christians, would he have left if he knew? Would he consider lack of belief to cause us to not be capable of caring for the sick? Sorry to rant, that just hit a little too close to home. :banghead:

I'm glad your daughter is doing better. Take care.

Giorgia

Hi, there, Never!

My best friend is a resperatory therapist at a county hospital in a very convervative xian community and I'm sure he would also be offended by Blonde's husband's attitude -- so your "rant" was right on target, in my opinion.

I personally feel safer in the hands of non-believing health professionals: i.e., people who know that the life they're trying to save is the only one I've got, people who don't turn around and think "it's in the hands of God now" instead of thinking "let's see: is there anything more I could do right now?"


And hi again to BG:

I'm glad to hear that your daughter is doing better. I'm sure that going through this crisis is not helping the general situation in your family right now, but keep up your energy and stay the course -- you know now that you have a lot of personal strength and that you don't have to rely on some mythical power.

And, be braced: I would bet the farm that your husband will try to blame your daughter's illness on you in the midst of his next argument with you. Have a comeback ready -- like, remind him that if his faith is so wonderful, why would god punish his daughter for your actions?

beth

Thanks Giorgiana. You know I've never really looked into the unbelieving doctor thing. As a believer I always thought it was great to find a doctor who was a Christian because of prayer. My own kids doctor is Islamic. That has been a problem in the past with family because my son was once hospitalized and we could not figure why he was getting worse. My husband's red-neck father caused all kinds of problems over her ethnicity and religion. It's amazing that people can be such self-righteous asses when there is a scared, sick, and dying child in the bed next to them. It's funny because when my son was dying, I could not pray. You would think someone could pray during a time like that. But my doctor found the problem and saved him, my family never gave her that credit, only God.