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echidna · 03-05-2003, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by kwigibo
I'm sorry, i must disagree. Hendrix's version is musically far superior, but neither of them are good singers in a conventional sense. That said, I invariably hate conventionally adept singers, and love the way both of them sing. Hendrix does a lot better with that particular song, but it has little to do with his voice, in my opinion, for what that's worth

Oh I agree with your disagree, in fact nothing bores me more musically than perfect pitch & tone. Hendrix is an appalling singer but I find his sincerity very evokative. OTOH I find Dylan's deadpan grates on me. Personally I describe my musical taste as "angst ridden". I die whenever I hear Janis Joplin.

Jackalope · 03-06-2003, 02:25 AM

Gah. I hate Dylan. Possibly because I've heard many of the other musicians he's stolen from over the years. Though hearing Martin Carthy sing these days is pretty painful as well. He's pretty much blown out his voice now.

I still simply don't understand why Dylan was so popular. Then again, I fail to understand most pop music. Though my partner and I had the waitress in stitches last week when we started whining along with Kurt Kobain. "I'm such a loser, I'm a big whiner, I have no life, I'm such a whiiiiner...sucks to me, sucks to be me, me me me me" etc.

Good pitch and clarity doesn't mean you have to have no soul. And bad singing is certainly no substitute for soul.

Farren · 03-06-2003, 03:01 AM

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Originally posted by Jackalope
Gah. I hate Dylan. Possibly because I've heard many of the other musicians he's stolen from over the years. Though hearing Martin Carthy sing these days is pretty painful as well. He's pretty much blown out his voice now.

Jebus H! Do you realise how many people have covered DYLAN originals?

Novowels · 03-06-2003, 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by LaFlavor
whole buncha smashing pumpkins stuff could fit into this category.

lies. Billy's voice owns you.

Megatron · 03-06-2003, 04:27 AM

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Originally posted by FoE
Almost anything by Frontline Assembly fits here. They're great musicians and all but they can't write lyrics to save their lives. Praise Jebus they don't even try with Delerium.

Ahhh, yes... the TERRIBLE lyrics of Bill Leeb. FLA aren't the only violators here, though... a big chunk of industrial music has the same problem. (See Project Pitchfork, Razed In Black, Wumpscut, etc...)

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Originally posted by slept2long
Opeth(who's "blackwater park" hasn't left my cd player for a week.)

Best. Band. EVER. :notworthy

Arvel Joffi · 03-06-2003, 07:43 AM

I"ve gotta second LaFlavor. I'd be huge Smahing pumpkins fan if Billy would sing. He whines and screeches and rasps. Damn it! They're such a good band otherwise!

Deadbeat · 03-06-2003, 09:56 AM

Um... anything and EVERYTHING by Leonard Cohen?

One of the best songwriters I've ever encountered, but the man can't sing to save his life.

Novowels · 03-06-2003, 12:11 PM

I like it when he whines.

I do think he sounds much more polished on Zwan, though.

Wyz_sub10 · 03-06-2003, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by Evangelion
PS. I'll sell my soul to the first person who can give me the URL to a site which offers the "Short Skirt, Long Jacket" song in Mp3 format.

It helps to turn your PM 'on' when asking for favours.

August Spies · 03-06-2003, 02:11 PM

All of my favorite singers are people with wierd odd voices, such as

Frank Black of the Pixies
Jello Biafra of Dead Kennedys fame
Issac Brooks of Modest Mouse fame
Doc Dart of Crucifucks fame
Beth Gibbons of Portishead fame (she can get weird)
Jerome's Dream guy
Reversal of Man guy
City of Caterpiller guy
Blood Brothers sassy dudes
Neurosis guy

My favorite emcees are Aesop Rock and Does One (at least voice-wise)

the closest thing to a "great" singer I really enjoy is Thom Yorke (radiohead).

I forget the point of this post.....

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03-06-2003, 02:25 AM	#22
Jackalope Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hayward, CA, USA Posts: 1,675	Gah. I hate Dylan. Possibly because I've heard many of the other musicians he's stolen from over the years. Though hearing Martin Carthy sing these days is pretty painful as well. He's pretty much blown out his voice now. I still simply don't understand why Dylan was so popular. Then again, I fail to understand most pop music. Though my partner and I had the waitress in stitches last week when we started whining along with Kurt Kobain. "I'm such a loser, I'm a big whiner, I have no life, I'm such a whiiiiner...sucks to me, sucks to be me, me me me me" etc. Good pitch and clarity doesn't mean you have to have no soul. And bad singing is certainly no substitute for soul.

03-06-2003, 07:43 AM	#26
Arvel Joffi Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,359	I"ve gotta second LaFlavor. I'd be huge Smahing pumpkins fan if Billy would sing. He whines and screeches and rasps. Damn it! They're such a good band otherwise!

03-06-2003, 09:56 AM	#27
Deadbeat Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,238	Um... anything and EVERYTHING by Leonard Cohen? One of the best songwriters I've ever encountered, but the man can't sing to save his life.

03-06-2003, 12:11 PM	#28
Novowels Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,658	I like it when he whines. I do think he sounds much more polished on Zwan, though.

03-06-2003, 02:11 PM	#30
August Spies Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Vine Posts: 12,950	All of my favorite singers are people with wierd odd voices, such as Frank Black of the Pixies Jello Biafra of Dead Kennedys fame Issac Brooks of Modest Mouse fame Doc Dart of Crucifucks fame Beth Gibbons of Portishead fame (she can get weird) Jerome's Dream guy Reversal of Man guy City of Caterpiller guy Blood Brothers sassy dudes Neurosis guy My favorite emcees are Aesop Rock and Does One (at least voice-wise) the closest thing to a "great" singer I really enjoy is Thom Yorke (radiohead). I forget the point of this post.....

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