Wyz_sub10

My irony meter just about went off the scale here.

Volker.Doormann

Fun is important, but the serious kernel of the hole too.

Tom Sawyer

Anyone know what it was that happened on the 27th?

There was a car accident here in Atlanta that killed one person and injured a couple more. Is that what VD was predicting, or was he talking about something more substantial?

Edit:

Hey!

Talking about a car accident was my 666th post!

Wyz_sub10

Fun is important, although I do not know what the second part of your sentence means.

I take it you are suggesting that, fun aside, there is a serious issue here. I agree there is.

But I find it ironic that you would make the statement: "He cannot give any proof of his pseudoscience."

I have yet to see a study that supports proof of any astrological claims. Astrology is a pseudoscience - there is nothing scientific about it. There is no scientific basis for the influence of bodies on people or a correlation between bodies and personalities.

If the above is an inaccurate generalization of the connection between astrology and personalities or event occurrences, then feel free to correct me, although I'll find 10 astrologers who will have their own interpretations.

This thread is a dozen pages of tail-chasing and circular discussions on both sides. I've seen nothing to suggest that there is any scientific merit to astrology or that it has any predictive or explicatory value whatsoever.

Nothing happened on August 27 that has any relevance to your predictions, but I suppose I could throw a dart at a calendar and predict something will happen on earth with a reasonably high chance for success.

Comments like this:

serve only to confuse things further.

You can begin by explaning where this character comes from, if not from DNA. Or, perhaps more importantly, how you know that "character" is something that comes from any particular source other than DNA + environment.

I'm sincerely interested in an explanation.

Volker.Doormann

Ahhh, you miss that a date is a moving point on earth. And this constallation is not fixed on your date of only one day. It is hot since the mid of August, and I have cited the craches in this thread in detail, while you was asleep. There was a power outage in NY/Toronto on the 14th and today hundreds of thousands of passengers were trapped on the London Underground and thousands of others took to the streets as a power outage struck the city during evening rush hour Thursday 28th. At 04:48:20 UTC today there was a Magnitude 6.2 earthquake in Southern East Pacific. It was. It is not a tric; It's astrology.

Wyz_sub10

What does this mean? The day is one rotation of the earth, and it certainly does not extend for an undefined time. August 27 - for all parts of the globe - has a very defined period.

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There was a power outage in NY/Toronto on the 14th

What does the 27th have to do with the 14th? The cause of the power failure was mechanical and quite defined. What are you suggesting? Astology can predict mechanical lapses?

The power outage lasted less than 12 hours in many areas and did little more than create a minor inconvenience (I know because I live in downtown Toronto, and walked home with 800,000 other people). It was nothing that doesn't happen everyday in some part of the world.

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At 04:48:20 UTC today there was a Magnitude 6.2 earthquake in Southern East Pacific. It was. It is not a tric; It's astrology.

Volker, this is ridiculous.

Look at the data:

Number of earthquakes 6.0 or greater in 2003

Jan: 8
Feb: 3
Mar: 11
Apr: 7
May: 16
Jun: 11
Jul: 12
Aug: 6 (up to the 25th only)

Earthquakes of 6.0 or greater are commonplace. I can say - right now - that there will be an earthquake of 6.0 or greater on September 15th. Give me a "floating day" of who knows how many "real" days and I'm sure to be right.

Volker.Doormann

Science is a method, not a belief sytem. If 'scientists' do not have any natural explanation of astrology, this means nothing. A claim 'Astrology is a pseudoscience - there is nothing scientific about it', is yunk or politics, but not a scientific result of methods. 'If two medicine Doctors are agree, then one of both is not a Doctor.' You comes up with persons, not with valid arguments against the science of astrology. You can ignore astrology, but you cannot judge about it, powered by a belief in the religion of science and its 'Gods'. It is a religious claim of believing scientists, to discredit astrology. There is nothing of scientific methods to be shown by this believers. Still superstition. No serious scientists would judge about QM or GR in this way, lacking in knowlede of the matter. It is your forum. I think, I have given a lot of specific reasonable arguments, relating to the subject. And my impression is, that there was no adequate counterarguments ever. From my side you can close the thread.That's the joke of the day. I have never seen a scientific proof or paper, that a specific individual character of a being can be proved from DNA. It is still a superstition of pseudoscientists.

Volker

Volker.Doormann

No, you are wrong. At the same time UTC there can be different dates in Australia and Hawaii. BTW. This is some basics. I have in my file
Aug: 4 M7.5
Aug: 11 M6.0
Aug: 14 M6.3
Aug: 21 M7.2
Aug: 28 M6.2

as you can see from my graph

together with a red line indicating the amount harmonics from my algorithm.

Volker (says Good Night to all from Germany)

Shadowy Man

So, what is the correlation coefficient? And confidence intervals?

Lobstrosity

Of course it's a trick, Volker. You predicted (and this is a paraphrase) that "around Aug 27 either an earthquake or something bad will happen." The trick that you are exploiting is that either an earthquake or something bad happens every day of the year somewhere on Earth and you gave us a three to five day window! You could have replaced Aug 27 with any date and still been "correct." You were asked repeatedly to give the five-minute interval during which this devastating event was to occur (since you claimed that this could be done retroactively for other earthquakes) and to specify the nature of the event. You were unable to do this, proving fairly conclusively that your astrology is nothing more than a trick.

And the claim that "astrology is pseudo-science" has nothing to do with politics. It comes directly from the application of the scientific method. This is why all of science agrees that astrology is as bogus as phrenology, tarot cards, and palm reading. First and foremost, neither astrologers nor scientists have any proposed mechanism by which astrology can work. Even if they did, they have no proposed reason why such a mechanism would even have the effects it does. On top of all this, scientists have actual scientific data that the claims of astrologers are bogus. In short, what astrologers say will happen doesn't actually happen with any statistical significance. Astrology is no better at making predictions and character assessments than a random prediction/characteristic generator. What does this tell you about the significance of astrology? All of this combines to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that astrology is mere fiction--nothing more than ancient superstition rooted in mythology and ignorance.