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Old 11-12-2002, 12:40 PM   #21
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<strong>So. If they deny the fact that the OT needs to be observed except in cases where Jesus says it does (like the 10 commandments), how can I argue the inconsistencies of the OT vs. the NT, or even point out how ruthless and cruel the OT is?
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Interesting. I wonder what they think of homosexuality? As far as I know, there's nothing in the NT that forbids it. All the biblical objections to it that I'm aware of occur in the OT.
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The views on homosexuality vary, with my parents being the most liberal (Mom would be fine if I was lesbian, Dad would at very least accept me as his daughter and try his best not to take any personal reservations out on me). But some of Dad's siblings and in-laws are not so. For example, one aunt stopped watching "ER" because one doctor was lesbian. The same aunt's 9-year-old laughs hysterically--and scornfully--at any suggestion of someone being gay. Actually, she has 5 kids, but we won't get into that... Oh, and one of Dad's brothers angrily denies any "accusation" that homosexuality might be genetic or otherwise not a person's decision, because "That might almost be saying it's O.K."

There are 21--soon to be 22, by marriage--grandkids on Dad's side of the family. The odds for at least one of us not being bi/homosexual are not good. I really fear for the well-being of such a person in my family. (Most of them are not through puberty yet.) My relatives thoroughly endorse ex-gay programs, etc., because "They really do work!"

Will someone please hold my hair out of the toilet while I vomit?

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Old 11-12-2002, 06:58 PM   #23
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Interesting. I wonder what they think of homosexuality? As far as I know, there's nothing in the NT that forbids it. All the biblical objections to it that I'm aware of occur in the OT.
1 Timothy 1:10--
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For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine.
First Corinthians 6:9--
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Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.
Second Timothy 3:3--
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Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good.
At least those are the verses that are commonly interpreted as such by the fundies.

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