Gurdur

Come off it.
That was a valid line of analogy.
To point out the very obvious:

1. The original OP made it clear --- especially given my first post in this thread referring to all Mark's history here --- that the original OP poster's objection to Lieberman was the fact that Lieberman was a Jew.
   
2. Some people chose explicitly or implicitly to agree with Alinsky 100 %
   
3. Others decided to ignore or evade the blatant racism, and simply concentrate on Lieberman's politics.
   
4. This is suspect when following on from such a blatantly racist post.
   
5. Just to repeat, if people wanted an unrtainted anti-Lieberman position, they could have either distanced themselves from Alinsky's antisemitism, or started a new thread.

Just to repeat, if people wanted an unrtainted anti-Lieberman position, they could have either distanced themselves from Alinsky's antisemitism, or started a new thread.
Reeeeeaaallly, what is so hard to understand here ?

Are you denying Mark Alinsky is a Nazi, or neo-Nazi, however you like to put it ?
Should I repost my original post where I drew attention to his worship of Hitler ?
How about his Holocaust-denying posts ?
I did.
For the record, I find your strawmen unrestrained.
Lieberman is a Jew ? Amazing you should mix into your post comments on modding, in that case.

Apologies not accepted.
Your initial post to me was unrestrained, blatantly strawman-packed, and contained references to modding that made it all very unclear, as though you were speaking with a mod's authority, while implicitly denigrating my argument and myself for making it.

Jat

I agree with you that Mark is an idiot and his reasons for voting against Lieberman are all wrong, but that doesn't mean that since we don't like Lieberman as president that we are being anti-sematic either. I don'tlike the man not because of what he is, but for his political beliefs.

Jat

I think that the only reason that he is being such an ass is that I agreed that Lieberman shouldn't be president and I'm totally ignoring him.

Jat

Isn't there some rule on here that the first one to compare another to the Nazis automatically loses the argument?

Gurdur

LOL !
I'll be fascinated to see what the mods do with this one.

Vorkosigan

The original OP made it clear --- especially given my first post in this thread referring to all Mark's history here --- that the original OP poster's objection to Lieberman was the fact that Lieberman was a Jew.

Quite so. And other posters disavowed that reason explicitly.

Some people chose explicitly or implicitly to agree with Alinsky 100 %

Everyone agreed that Alinsky was wrong in his choice of reasons, and Lieberman was unacceptable as a Prez. Can you point to a poster who expressed agreement with Alinsky's entire position on Lieberman.

Others decided to ignore or evade the blatant racism, and simply concentrate on Lieberman's politics.

Right. Because concentrating on Lieberman's politics is not only completely relevant, but the proper way to avoid a stupid thread on anti-Semitism and a fight amongst ourselves. Everyone managed to evade Alinsky's trap but you. I feel sad, Gurdur. We had defeated Alinsky completely by making his position small and worthless, and here you come and completely revitalize his crude attempt to disrupt the forum.

This is suspect when following on from such a blatantly racist post.

There's nothing suspect about it. Nobody likes Alinsky's ideas.

Just to repeat, if people wanted an unrtainted anti-Lieberman position, they could have either distanced themselves from Alinsky's antisemitism, or started a new thread.

Gurdur, name some names. Which poster did not distance himself properly, in your view, from Alinsky?

Are you denying Mark Alinsky is a Nazi, or neo-Nazi, however you like to put it ? Should I repost my original post where I drew attention to his worship of Hitler ? How about his Holocaust-denying posts ?

Who denied it? Everyone moved past that to an enjoyable diss--cussion on the despicable Joe Lieberman. Why waste time focusing on nonsense? We're all grown up here, and anyone can see what Alinsky is.

For the record, I find your strawmen unrestrained.

For the record, so far you have not posted a single bit of credible evidence regarding the claims you made. Can you show which of the follow-on posters was not sufficiently balanced for your tastes?

Lieberman is a Jew ?

No, the worthiness of Lieberman to be Prez. That is the issue Alinsky raised. He said it was a bad idea because Lieberman is a Jew. Nobody agreed. We all agreed he was a bad idea because he had bad politics.

Amazing you should mix into your post comments on modding, in that case.

Once again, I apologize for thinking out loud and confusing you.

Apologies not accepted. Your initial post to me was unrestrained, blatantly strawman-packed, and contained references to modding that made it all very unclear, as though you were speaking with a mod's authority, while implicitly denigrating my argument and myself for making it.

Gurdur, an "argument" that begins with "ROFL" and sarcastically suggests posters out to march with the KKK and the Nazis, and ends with similar comments regarding NAMBLA, can only be regarded as needlessly provocative, illogical, exaggerated and unconducive to temperate and useful communication.

The worst part is that you seem unable to acknowledge that there was anything wrong with a post that sarcastically suggests that other posters really ought to go out and march with the KKK.

Vorkosigan

Fr.Andrew

If he didn't have a religious bone in his body, Lieberman's association with ACTA cost him my vote.

99Percent

I am closing this thread. If someone still wishes to discuss Lieberman's unworthiness as possible president feel free to open another one.