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Old 05-11-2003, 10:48 PM   #41
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The creationists and hollow earthers have their books too. And you know nothing about argument. It is not a logical fallacy to insult someone, it is only ad hominem if you claim that some (purported) insulting characteristic invalidates your opponent's argument.
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Old 05-11-2003, 11:00 PM   #42
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LOL! Since when does punishing criminals qualify as mass murder? Stalin PUNISHED people for their CHOICES; Hitler MURDERED people (i.e. the Jews) based upon their race alone. They could not choose.
No, Hitler didn't MURDER Jews because of their RACE, he simply PUNISHED them for their theivery, their lies, and their conniving plots to pollute the purity of the Fatherland by their conspiracy to take over europe through the world bank. See how easy this is? I could just as easily, and with corresponding resoning, fault you for your careless use of "anti- Hitler propaganda".
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Old 05-11-2003, 11:54 PM   #43
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The creationists and hollow earthers have their books too. And you know nothing about argument. It is not a logical fallacy to insult someone, it is only ad hominem if you claim that some (purported) insulting characteristic invalidates your opponent's argument.
Good! then it is ad hominem!! Thank you!!
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Old 05-12-2003, 12:57 AM   #44
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I was referring to this:

Originally posted by lpetrich
I think that we ought to introduce Totalitarianist to the Holocaust deniers and to the defenders of Biblical genocide.



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I think we ought to dismiss the above as ad hominem.

That is definately *not* an ad hominem. The fact that you thought it was is good evidence, in my opinion, that you don't know what you're talking about. Since you think Stalin was such a nice guy, why not quit the chit-chat and outline for us some of these wonderful things you suppose him to have done.
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Old 05-12-2003, 12:58 AM   #45
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Having read the introduction to Zinoviev's book that initiated this thread, I find it nothing more than a standard defense of Stalin containing all the old shit.

If you, Totalitarianist, continue, I'll take you on. I don't believe you have been confronted by a seasoned Marxist who is also an anti-Stalinist.

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Old 05-12-2003, 04:16 AM   #46
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http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/book.html
Sure, out of the countless books which show that Stalin was a monster only this one is true. Please. If we were to go my your logic we would belief any nutjob as long as they wrote and unfounded book.
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