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Derec · 07-16-2003, 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by cheetah
They ARE in real life treating the women like lower life forms because they are treating them like non-human animals.

That's where your argument falls apart. That is not "real life", it's a game.

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cheetah · 07-16-2003, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by UglyManOnCampus
That's where your argument falls apart. That is not "real life", it's a game.

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They are still actually doing it in real life, though. It's not a dream sequence, you know. they are actually doing it, and that's what I don't think is right. Even in a "game" that is specifically intended to fulfill fantasies (war games usu. aren't intended to fulfill fantasies of going off on a mass murdering rage, IMO), it's not right to treat women as animals. And this kind of situation is particularly indicative of living out what you would like to do in real life, i.e. have supremacy over the other sex.

Derec · 07-16-2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by cheetah
They are still actually doing it in real life, though.

*sigh* Can we agree to disagree, since all we do is go in circles?

Since this is not my particular fantasy, you don't have to hate me even though I failed to change your mind.

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AquaVita · 07-16-2003, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by cheetah
It's not whether one person is always dom or sub, it's that one sex always is dom or sub, regardless of the individual.

Your logic is flawed.

No one is telling women that they can't go out and start their own naked paintball game against men. This is not an "all or nothing" deal.

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In BDMS, you don't say, What sex are ou? Or you're dom, then.

Perhaps you are not familiar with bondage play, but the situation you describe is not at all unusual. Would you say that a femdom is a man hater?

As I posted before, I think this sucks. I cannot imagine why anyone would want to do such a thing to themselves or to another person. But I also feel that way about scat and other odd fetishes. It's not my place to be a moral cop. If it's consensual, then it has a place. Bottom line.

Bree · 07-16-2003, 05:18 PM

�The women who think this is abusive and degrading need to put their attention where it should be, and I think that�s Afghanistan, said Krekelberg."

Calzaer · 07-16-2003, 06:03 PM

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Play acting at a game where you are a hunter and someone of the opposite sex is prey, further degraded or disarmed by lack of clothing, not to mention equating women to animals, which as humane as some of us are, we almost all typically ascribe to a feeling of superiority over non-human animals, doesn't indicate to you any feelings of superiority on the part of these males over females?

Ok, sure. For the sake of argument, this paragraph is 100% correct. The men who play this game have feelings of superiority over women.

So what?

Are they going to stop having feelings of superiority if we don't let them play?

RufusAtticus · 07-16-2003, 06:34 PM

I guess the next question is "who would you want to 'hunt'?"

Dr. Laura might be a fun target.

RevDahlia · 07-16-2003, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by RufusAtticus
I guess the next question is "who would you want to 'hunt'?"

Dr. Laura might be a fun target.

Naked? Ugh.

Two words: Ann Coulter.

Derec · 07-16-2003, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by RevDahlia
Naked? Ugh.

She didn't look bad back when she was young.
Of course, she wasn't fundified back then neither.

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Two words: Ann Coulter.

You are right. She is very thin --> smaller target --> bigger challenge

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Kat_Somm_Faen · 07-16-2003, 07:50 PM

Nah.

Adults doing what they chose to.

Now how free is their choice, considering one can only starve and die without a job - it a whole another topic.

And if NOW thinks differently - put up or shut up!
Offer them a job, NOW, and stop screaming. Do something. Howver stupid these girl may be - they need to eat, be dressed and need a place to live. However demented losers these guys may be, they are employing these girls and thereby doing more for them than NOW.

However deplorable, these people chose to do this of their own consent. I regret this very much but I cant make them stop. But NOW may be right about their motivation.

I ask you, how can you live without earning money?

Though it is a whole other topic.

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07-16-2003, 05:18 PM	#45
Bree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Twin Cities, USA Posts: 3,197	�The women who think this is abusive and degrading need to put their attention where it should be, and I think that�s Afghanistan, said Krekelberg."

07-16-2003, 06:34 PM	#47
RufusAtticus Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NCSU Posts: 5,853	I guess the next question is "who would you want to 'hunt'?" Dr. Laura might be a fun target.

07-16-2003, 07:50 PM	#50
Kat_Somm_Faen Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 3,316	Nah. Adults doing what they chose to. Now how free is their choice, considering one can only starve and die without a job - it a whole another topic. And if NOW thinks differently - put up or shut up! Offer them a job, NOW, and stop screaming. Do something. Howver stupid these girl may be - they need to eat, be dressed and need a place to live. However demented losers these guys may be, they are employing these girls and thereby doing more for them than NOW. However deplorable, these people chose to do this of their own consent. I regret this very much but I cant make them stop. But NOW may be right about their motivation. I ask you, how can you live without earning money? Though it is a whole other topic.

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