WinAce

... Aside from a comparative religions course. I'm quite for such an (optional) subject, because it would probably add to religious tolerance in general.

The problem is that there's no such thing as a 'creation science'. The literal YEC position is indefensible, and the 'intelligent design' version (playing off gaps in our scientific knowledge and assuming a god is the default explanation with no other corroborating evidence) is very bad science. You're welcome to take it on faith, but it's still not 'science'.

Evolution, Big Bang Cosmology and other science don't contradict or aim to replace 'creationism'; only strict and falsifiable forms of it. The only reason to add such a disclaimer is therefore to make accepted science seem like a worse set of theories than it actually is. As such, it's scientifically worthless and a pure political ploy by people who have the (wrong) idea that science contradicts their religious beliefs.

Badfish

Well I believe in the Big Bang theory, I am a Stephen Hawkings fan, I love the study of Black Holes and astronomy in general.

I can still be a creationist and believe in the Big Bang because I can believe when God made the Universe he made it in a fashion consistent with todays modern science.

Other than that I agree with you WinAce, Creationism could be an elective along with other sciences, but should not be a required course, it is a faith based science and not easily proven with science.

pz

Not a comparable degree in biology, that's for sure. Any college that specializes in creation "science" is not teaching science.

Specifically, what christian creationist college are you thinking of that can award accredited degrees in biology?

tgamble

Doesn't the Christian Heritage College have that? And BJU?

Graeme

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Yep, sounds good to me.

We already have places that children can learn about religious teachings - they're called churches, and I'd bet in many places in America there are more of them than schools.

Albion

Well, in one case, when the professor realised the faculty wouldn't support her against these students (private college in the South, students were paying customers, you know the setup), she left. Another one just turned the death threats over to the FBI and got on with life.

Badfish

I believe Carroll College in Helena Montana.

BYU in Utah (although Mormon)

There are Catholic and Christian Colleges that can award degrees in biology and in medicinal sciences.

Badfish

I really don't know of any colleges that specialize in creation as a science, but like I said there are religious colleges that give accredited degrees in all fields.

Creationism isn't a science yet, but when the book of Revelation starts coming true in it's prophesies and people start seeing that god is on the move and ready to return, it will quickly become a science! j/k kinda

Badfish

Sorry Geo, the short answer is no. If there is a creator the people will find Him without the benefit of public school. Besides the guidelines would be so strict and public outcry so great it wouldn't happen anyway.

Vorkosigan

Which creationism? Didn't Pele create the Hawaiian Islands? Didn't the Great Spirit create the plains full-blown, animals springing from the grass?

He was one of those Guys that tells you all the work you need to do every day in order to pass and that if you slack off on it you will get buried and then flunks half the class just like he said he would because they didn't put in the time. He was even pointed out some of the people repeating the course and said to ask them if he was telling the truth.
So I would say he was a very effective teacher.

I'm glad you think this. This is how I operate in my university classes here. I get a lot of positive feedback from the students, but it is difficult to distill out the flattery from the truth sometimes. Interestingly, just like your prof, I am forced every semester to flunk kids who just won't fulfill the demands of the class, who are then astounded that they were flunked.

Vorkosigan