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rebelnerd · 06-29-2002, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Media-1:
It pisses me off too, but I have a reason to get angry about this.

And just what is your reason? How is it more justified than my getting pissed off about it?

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It is odd that atheists usually value human life to a greater degree than they value ant life.

Nothing odd about it. Don't you value humans more than ants?

Filo

rebelnerd · 06-29-2002, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by Media-1:
I understand why theists get angry about it, but is it stupid for me to wonder what reason atheists might have for being pissed off about a mother that bakes her babies in a hot car? Just wondering.

Yes it is stupid.

Filo

rebelnerd · 06-29-2002, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by Media-1:
You have morals? Wonderful! does that explain why you would get pissed at the mother who baked her kids in a hot car?

Yes it does. What I wonder is why you seem to feel the need to question this.

Filo

rebelnerd · 06-29-2002, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by Media-1:
Are you saying it was wrong for the mother to do that?

Now I understand, you must be an idiot. Or a troll.

Filo

I ate Pascal's Wafer · 06-29-2002, 10:16 PM

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Are you saying it was wrong for the mother to do that?

Are you trying to make a point? Haven't we already said it was wrong?

-Nick

Media-1 · 06-29-2002, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by Filo Quiggens:


"Yes it does. What I wonder is why you seem to feel the need to question this."

Isn't it obvious? Aren't you making a moral judgement about the mother because of what she did?

Media-1

I ate Pascal's Wafer · 06-29-2002, 10:23 PM

Make a point, would ya?

rebelnerd · 06-29-2002, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by Media-1:
Isn't it obvious?

What your feeling the need to question this? Please clarify.

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Aren't you making a moral judgement about the mother because of what she did?

Yes I am making a moral judgment.

Filo

[ June 29, 2002: Message edited by: Filo Quiggens ]

Media-1 · 06-29-2002, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by I ate Pascals Wafer:
"Make a point, would ya?"

I'm curious about what it is, exactly, that atheists have to get pissed off about here. I'm not saying that atheists have no morals. I'm just observing that the woman that baked her kids to death might have thought that she did nothing morally wrong at all.

If morality is based upon everyone's own individual value-judgements, then why would it surprise you that this woman might perhaps think that her hair is more precious than her two kids?

Granted, she may have broken a few laws, but I didn't hear any protest about law-breaking. It sounds to me like you guys are pissed about something else. Something moral perhaps?

Media-1

Panta Pei · 06-29-2002, 10:46 PM

"Isn't it obvious? Aren't you making a moral judgement about the mother because of what she did?"

Yes.

I disbelieve in fairy tales and I don't require an eternal carrot or a stick to feel assorted visceral emotions regarding the patently offensive behavior of this pathetic human being.

Check me off your list Media-1:

I am an atheist and I have been wading through these miseries for most of my adult life.

My question to you is:

If you were an omnipotent, anthropocentrically oriented deity, would you have acted to prevent this suffering from happening?

I would have, in an instant.

How do you now rate my moral judgement over the deity of your choice?

Thanks for your time and consideration in this matter <nods to Buffman>

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I ate Pascal's Wafer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,460	Make a point, would ya?

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Panta Pei Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in the middle of things Posts: 722	"Isn't it obvious? Aren't you making a moral judgement about the mother because of what she did?" Yes. I disbelieve in fairy tales and I don't require an eternal carrot or a stick to feel assorted visceral emotions regarding the patently offensive behavior of this pathetic human being. Check me off your list Media-1: I am an atheist and I have been wading through these miseries for most of my adult life. My question to you is: If you were an omnipotent, anthropocentrically oriented deity, would you have acted to prevent this suffering from happening? I would have, in an instant. How do you now rate my moral judgement over the deity of your choice? Thanks for your time and consideration in this matter <nods to Buffman>

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