Amos

Thanks for the links Buffman, I will read more of it later.

We studied her case in ethics and the question was if her honorary PhD's should be revoked.

In this class it was suggested that Mead's story was welcomed in America because the upper half of society was searching for some kind of justification to enter the sexual revolution.

You could very well be correct because in an ethics class a certain slant may be added to make the argument better. Having said this, I still think she is wrong and I don't have to go to Samoa to write an argument why her stories cannot be true.

Kama

She set out as a young woman to form an order than would bring a touch of humanity which none at 1950 embarked in India and the theology of the Catholic Church to the poor of the world. She never pretended to be a doctor who could wipe out or even soften the pain of death.

She and her little army of sisters were there to bring spiritual comfort to the suffering, a concept that apparently escapes her critics.

An example of Catholic Squandering $$?
<a href="http://www.kofc.org/columbia/october/activities.htm" target="_blank">http://www.kofc.org/columbia/october/activities.htm</a>

$1.5 million mortgage note for the headquarters building of the Holy See’s Permanent Observer Mission at the United Nations

We provide funding for a variety of programs and projects of and for our bishops. Last February, for instance, we again supported the conference on medical-moral issues conducted in Dallas by the National Catholic Bioethics Center and attended by bishops from the United States, Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean and the Philippines.

Numerous other Church-related groups received financial aid: the National Apostolate for Inclusion Ministry, the National Catholic Council on Alcoholism, the National Catholic Office for Persons with Disabilities, the National Catholic Office for the Deaf, the Institute on Religious Life, the Council of Major Superiors of Women Religious, the Little Sisters of the Poor and the Franciscan Sisters of the Eucharist in Meriden, Conn. ( just a few of the corrupt Roman Catholic hoodlums)

<a href="http://www.cin.org/archives/cinnews/200002/0000.html" target="_blank">http://www.cin.org/archives/cinnews/200002/0000.html</a>
You have spoken of forgiveness. Some daughters of your Congregation were killed this past year in Africa and Asia. What has this meant for all of you?

SISTER NIRMALA:
For us it is something painful, but at the same time,
paradoxically, it is a blessing. Seven sisters have been killed doing
their work of charity. We follow Jesus. Persecution and death are part of the life of those who follow him. We are not afraid.

Want me to state all the protestants and christian alpha course lite/new reformation/apostles fundings and figures?
Humans are not perfect? Agreed? Rational? Logical?

John lennon! tsk

Vorkosigan

She and her little army of sisters were there to bring spiritual comfort to the suffering, a concept that apparently escapes her critics.

Quite true. Her critics are interested in concrete things, like improving mortality rates, reducing poverty, increasing health, providing real and useful services, and other things that Mother T never really did.

Boro Nut

Yeah I'm right with you on that one. Why can't people just leave the poor demented cow alone for god's sake.

Boro Nut

Bloop

Kama:

Ok so now you have assasinated Hitchens character. What about his critique of Mother T ?

I ask of you to do one thing. Ask a fair number of westerners of their impressions of MT and what her mission was. They will not come up with the above. Lots of the money sent were intended for humanitarian aid in the form of food, medical care and clothes say. To get money from people on those premisses is fraudulent.

Many of the places were money were sent in your second post wasn't what the money was intended for.

Others sound more reasonable:

What about building hospitals in Calcutta, run by competent staff and with up to date medical equipment. This is more in line with what the money people sent was intended for.

Thor Q. Mada

That's the worst part. The more I read about her, the less I think she was demented.

And now a joke, and you all know I have no respect for anything:
"while for princes Diana Elton John made the song candles in the wind, for MT he made the song sandals in the bin"

OK, OK, Maybe not a great joke, but I have little to laugh about lately.

Kama

Debunking Teresa is debunking all charity itself
Let all fend themselves with ones fitness

Teresa the fallible
Is there a point in Roman Catholicism,where a human is deemed infallible?
For perusal
<a href="http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm" target="_blank">http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm</a>

Money
<a href="http://www.tisv.be/mt/mon.htm" target="_blank">http://www.tisv.be/mt/mon.htm</a>
Suffering!? I dont like that.Its mean!
<a href="http://www.tisv.be/mt/ss.htm" target="_blank">http://www.tisv.be/mt/ss.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.tisv.be/mt/wit.htm" target="_blank">http://www.tisv.be/mt/wit.htm</a>

Let all this catholic hoodlums and more beg for it?
When Mother Theresa died, the Congregation had 3,604 members with vows, along with 411 novices and 260 aspirants. The congregation operates in 119 countries (both developed and developing) and has 560 "tabernacles," as they call their houses.

Presumably,Vaishnavite Hindutvins vs Teresa
<a href="http://www.hindunet.org/forum/discus/messages/40/417.html" target="_blank">http://www.hindunet.org/forum/discus/messages/40/417.html</a>
I am still wondering what were this hindutvins doing across the street from her mission (and a few in USA ) ,seeing the scene perhaps.Lepers and insane people,oh what big bucks $$ on them.
How many years was it she lived for Calcutta again?Nah she lived for that grunts in vatican.

[edited out personal attack - nice try at poetry, but you're definately not there, yet.]

Drunkard Grunt
<a href="http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/american_left/radicalfeud.htm" target="_blank">http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/american_left/radicalfeud.htm</a>
Yesterday Alexander Cockburn attacked Christopher Hitchens as a snitch and a drunk

Teresa loves Keating,took fraud money ,criminals in Haiti, teresa thankful ,said Diana can divorce but not those Irish catholics
Lets see
tsk <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

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galiel

So it's ok for her to be a fraud, because there are other frauds? What kind or moral relativism is that?? Your logic is breathtaking.

Two wrongs don't make a right, and "everybody does it" ceases to be a convincing argument by the time most of us are 6.

galiel

How do you make that leap of logic?

Are you saying that debunking a false Messiah would be debunking all Christianity?

Or that debunking a counterfeit miracle (like the Shroud of Turin) debunks all miracles?

I don't understand the leap of logic, but, hey, if that is what it takes to debunk religion...

galiel

Um, bad name for a rock band?

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