Arvel Joffi

Don't be obtuse.

hezekiah jones

My guess: your trollishness.

Chad

So dead bodies that have not decomposed to the extent one would expect is evidence of the power of God? He sure picks strange ways to demonstrate his omnipotence.

Sabine Grant

Hi Gemma... it may have to do with the fact that Ipetrich is pointing to facts any christian theist should relate to. Some of what he quoted describes miracles performed by Christ. If I stick to the Christ miracles, it appears that the "spontaneous preservation" of those saints has little to do with the intent behind the miracles of Christ.

I was myself wondering what point you were trying to make.....it appears that the burden of proof is on you now to show me ( a christian) how the preservation of a cadaver has any contribution to humanity and projects any glory from any god. Keep in mind please that my approach of what you present as evidence of God's supernatural intervention as a" miracle" is different from an atheist's.

hezekiah jones

That crazy nut lpetrich. Always describing miracles performed by Christ.

Sabine Grant

Gemma... also to add that the preservation of a cadaver seems to not have much impact on the soul.... or are you saying it does?

The term " uncorrupted" really bothers me. We are talking about a dead person whose dead body has no impact whatsoever on the rest of humanity. Except for the cost of maintaining their exhibit etc....That morbid concept of a god who invests in a dead body does not settle with me. I prefer the representation of a god who dwells within living bodies. Any thoughts on that topic Gemma?

rdalin

Mother Teresa didn't do any of these things. She did, however, do something even more miraculous: she managed to convince most of the world (except for many people in India, oddly enough) that she actually helped people and did good things for them.

Amos

Mother theresa was a saint but not all saints were incurruptable. Do you like that better?

rdalin

That's where we differ, Amos. I think MT was a loathsome and detestable person whose reputation is entirely undeserved. There's plenty of documentation backing my point of view; 'The Missionary Position' by Christopher Hitchens is one of the best.

Her corruption was moral in nature; I have no interest in what happened to her body after she died.

Richard

Shake

Exactly!

The fact that the pope is choosing to accept a "miracle" that is being attributed to MT, but is totally falsified by the affected woman's own husband, shows the desperation of the Church. She had everyone convinced that she was saintly, so it makes sense to the pope that she should be a saint, facts to the contrary that no miracle has taken place.

The point is that Gemma, when faced with fact and logic, has to then try to save face by pointing out minor grammatical errors or by changing the subject completely. Be man/woman enough to admit it when you're wrong.