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theyeti · 06-03-2003, 09:17 AM

The man is truly insane.

Wolfowitz Bombshell: Saddam Behind 9/11 Attacks and OKC Bombing.

Quote:

Assistant Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, said by some to be the architect of America's war on Iraq, reportedly suspects that Saddam Hussein played a significant role in the three worst terrorist attacks ever on the U.S. - the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

Discussing his soon-to-be-released Vanity Fair interview with the top Pentagon official, Sam Tanenhaus told WABC Radio's Monica Crowley on Saturday: "Wolfowitz states that there's a very strong connection, he's convinced, between Saddam and the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993. This is a very controversial idea and yet Wolfowitz embraces it and has for quite some time."

The Vanity Fair writer added, "Also I was told by a source very close to him that Wolfowitz entertains the possibility that Saddam was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995.

I'm speechless.

theyeti

Thesouphead · 06-03-2003, 09:27 AM

That does not shock me at all. I mean, I supposedly helped with the 9/11 attack by buying a dime-bag of grass from Travis down the street.

theyeti · 06-03-2003, 09:32 AM

The sad thing is, he'll have 30 or 40% of Americans believing it.

theyeti

MortalWombat · 06-03-2003, 09:48 AM

As long as we're at it, let's blame him for Pearl Harbor attack, the the sinking of the U.S.S. Maine, and the Reagan assassination attempt.

King Rat · 06-03-2003, 09:48 AM

If he's wrong he's an absolute nutcase.

If he's right, he's a baldfaced liar. Why did we go after Al-Qaeda if Saddam Hussein was instead responsible?

Worse yet, what if he has no idea who is responsible?

I think the current administration is just trying to smokescreen the lack of WMD and overstating Iraq's threat to the US. If you throw enough shit into the air it'll get in peoples eyes.

Zimyatin · 06-03-2003, 09:52 AM

Sucks to be Tim McVeigh.

slept2long · 06-03-2003, 09:52 AM

McVeigh said the something similar in his writ of mandamus.
From here

VII . BEYOND ELOHIM CITY.

A. Suspect I. Posse Comitatus. and Iraq.

The defense believes that there is credible evidence that a conspiracy to
bomb federal property, very possibly the Murrah Building, is centered in
Elohim City and the persons described which are associated with Elohim City,
but that the technical expertise and possibly financial support came from a
foreign country, most likely Iraq, but possibly Iran or another state in the
Middle East. Dennis Mahon has admitted publicly to received money from Iraq,
approximately once a month. D.E. 2191 at 11. According to Mahon, the money
started arriving in 1991 after he began holding rallies protesting the
Persian Gulf War. Id.

Although the defense has no direct evidence linking Suspect I with Iraq,
there is evidence indicating an indirect connection between Suspect I and
Iraq through the militant Posse Comitatus group in Kansas. Suspect I made
two telephone calls to members of Posse Comitatus in Kansas: David Oliphant
and Buddy Snead (who also is married to a Filipina). Sources within the
Central Intelligence Agency have informed a defense source that two members
of the Posse Comitatus from Kansas traveled to New York City and made
contact with an Iraqi diplomat either immediately before the Persian Gulf
conflict with Iraq or immediately after. In addition, the defense has recent
information that someone made a telephone call from Suspect II residence to
a Member of the Order. D.E. 2482 at 22.

Not that I endorse it. My response to Wolfy is are you going to re-open the OKC investigation to catch the rest of the guilty parties?

Mr. Superbad · 06-03-2003, 09:58 AM

That idiot. It was obviously some satanic cult...

or maybe...

SADDAM WAS PART OF THAT SATANIC CULT!!!!!!

Fjordaniv · 06-03-2003, 10:18 AM

At the very least, it shifts the blame for the OKC bombing away from a right wing fanatic. Someone in the administration must have seen the resemblance.

Fred

mecca777 · 06-03-2003, 12:22 PM

Okay, in a very real sense this is truly fucking terrifying. I mean shit-your-pants scary.

But in another way, I really hope there's some truth to this rumour, and that it comes out in the mainstream press. Because maybe then some of the UK pro-war, pro-Pentagon politicians and journalists might start to look more closely at the PNAC and wonder what they've signed up for.

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06-03-2003, 09:27 AM	#2
Thesouphead Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 717	That does not shock me at all. I mean, I supposedly helped with the 9/11 attack by buying a dime-bag of grass from Travis down the street.

06-03-2003, 09:32 AM	#3
theyeti Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 9,747	The sad thing is, he'll have 30 or 40% of Americans believing it. theyeti

06-03-2003, 09:48 AM	#4
MortalWombat Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: St Louis area Posts: 3,458	As long as we're at it, let's blame him for Pearl Harbor attack, the the sinking of the U.S.S. Maine, and the Reagan assassination attempt.

06-03-2003, 09:48 AM	#5
King Rat Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 6,855	If he's wrong he's an absolute nutcase. If he's right, he's a baldfaced liar. Why did we go after Al-Qaeda if Saddam Hussein was instead responsible? Worse yet, what if he has no idea who is responsible? I think the current administration is just trying to smokescreen the lack of WMD and overstating Iraq's threat to the US. If you throw enough shit into the air it'll get in peoples eyes.

06-03-2003, 09:52 AM	#6
Zimyatin Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 308	Sucks to be Tim McVeigh.

06-03-2003, 09:52 AM	#7
slept2long Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 1,066	McVeigh said the something similar in his writ of mandamus. From here VII . BEYOND ELOHIM CITY. A. Suspect I. Posse Comitatus. and Iraq. The defense believes that there is credible evidence that a conspiracy to bomb federal property, very possibly the Murrah Building, is centered in Elohim City and the persons described which are associated with Elohim City, but that the technical expertise and possibly financial support came from a foreign country, most likely Iraq, but possibly Iran or another state in the Middle East. Dennis Mahon has admitted publicly to received money from Iraq, approximately once a month. D.E. 2191 at 11. According to Mahon, the money started arriving in 1991 after he began holding rallies protesting the Persian Gulf War. Id. Although the defense has no direct evidence linking Suspect I with Iraq, there is evidence indicating an indirect connection between Suspect I and Iraq through the militant Posse Comitatus group in Kansas. Suspect I made two telephone calls to members of Posse Comitatus in Kansas: David Oliphant and Buddy Snead (who also is married to a Filipina). Sources within the Central Intelligence Agency have informed a defense source that two members of the Posse Comitatus from Kansas traveled to New York City and made contact with an Iraqi diplomat either immediately before the Persian Gulf conflict with Iraq or immediately after. In addition, the defense has recent information that someone made a telephone call from Suspect II residence to a Member of the Order. D.E. 2482 at 22. Not that I endorse it. My response to Wolfy is are you going to re-open the OKC investigation to catch the rest of the guilty parties?

06-03-2003, 09:58 AM	#8
Mr. Superbad Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Well fortified mountain bunker Posts: 3,567	That idiot. It was obviously some satanic cult... or maybe... SADDAM WAS PART OF THAT SATANIC CULT!!!!!!

06-03-2003, 10:18 AM	#9
Fjordaniv Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carnegie, Pennsylvania Posts: 259	At the very least, it shifts the blame for the OKC bombing away from a right wing fanatic. Someone in the administration must have seen the resemblance. Fred

06-03-2003, 12:22 PM	#10
mecca777 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, UK Posts: 1,255	Okay, in a very real sense this is truly fucking terrifying. I mean shit-your-pants scary. But in another way, I really hope there's some truth to this rumour, and that it comes out in the mainstream press. Because maybe then some of the UK pro-war, pro-Pentagon politicians and journalists might start to look more closely at the PNAC and wonder what they've signed up for.

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