Monkeybot

No... it wasn't clear to me what your question was. You suddenly jumped from chemical bonding to genetic mutation, and I was having a bit of trouble following your leaps

As many of us have been trying to say: mutations occur randomly, but if you replicate the same conditions under which a mutation occurred (or if you tweak someone's genetic material the exact same way every time), you will produce the same mutation. For example, if you give somebody an extra 21st chromosome, you give them Down syndrome. There are different circumstances under which people get that extra chromosome, but no matter how you get it, the result will be the same.

Amaranth

So you affirm to understand debate, but not analogy. Interesting.

Now, I don't like people putting words in my mouth, so I can understand if this upsets you, but I truly, HONESTLY believe (though I cannot prove) that you haven't the slightest clue what debate is. I understand you may deny this, but I will probably maintain a belief that your denial (if you deny it) is simply for public, but in reality you wouldn't know debate if it bit you in the ass.

Why should I address your questions when your weak assertions are easier targets, especially considering you rarely defend them?

Close. I can't resist an inferior who insists on using circular logic, thinly veiled insults, and outright dismissal as his basis for "success." It amuses me to no end, displaying their ignorance for all, even if the subject will never grasp how badly beaten he is.

Excellent use of equivocation. Certain grade schoolers would be seriously stumped by this one.

Awww, poor little martyr.

Honestly, who do you think you're kidding? Your insults are thinly veiled at very best, and are in nearly any message you write.

*chuckle*

xian

whew! sometimes Mageth is calm, cool and collected, other times he lets it fly! but its cool....i like talking to you.


of course i do, and you are cofusing the axiom with categories of logic.

abiogenesis is a CATEGORY. it is simply
"Life was caused, and its cause was non-intelligent". It is a category with a nice little name. there are not an INFINITE amount of replacement theories. no amount of anger at me will create a new replacement. there are an infinite amount of logical ways abiogenesis could have happened, but not alternatives to abiogenesis itself.

THe axiom you keep citing is specifically about CAUSES and EFFECTS- abiogenesis is neither. it is a CATEGORY. i say Hume would agree with me because I believe he would be smart enough to know this.


"Equivocate all you want. It doesn't upset me at all, and it doesn't make it true. The fact is that I have no faith in abiogenesis."

I believe you do. I believe that i will wake up tomorrow. I also believe that you believe that life arose from nonlife spontaneously. I believe this.

xian

nice to know you have a belief system. i respect your belief system.

Bree

Due to a lack of upper-forum content, I am going to move this thread to ~E~ (Elsewhere).

Amaranth

Artful dodger. I rest my case.

Amaranth

I'd like to be the first to congratulate Mageth on his powers of prophecy. Two more miracles and you're a saint!

xian

what is that supposed to mean? there are several good conversations in this thread. lol i love this "moderation" so unbiased.

Monkeybot

:notworthy The justice of Bree is slow but sure.... :notworthy

xian

The Bias of bree is obvious.

a discussion of abiogenesis is most certainly qualified for "upper forum content" although a lot of the repetitive nonsense from amaranth could have gotten it sent into the E category. a warning would have been more appropriate as me and mageth were in the middle of a good dialogue.

I hope Bree had a pleasurable dopamine release when he moved the xians post to the meaningless "e" forum.