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winstonjen · 07-20-2003, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
It only proves that to you Mark, and maybe a few other atheists. How about you give up the stupid argument about Jesus' return. NOBODY knows except God, not the Biblical authors, not us, no one. Jesus is not late on His promises - He never intended to return in the 1st Century to judge the earth, you are just too stubborn to realize it and have to bring up the same drawn out argument, over and over and over.

They bring out the same arguments because they are waiting for a response from you. At least they have an argument.

Magus, if you didn't contradict yourself in your own posts, you might actually get somewhere with other people on these boards.

Magus55 · 07-20-2003, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by winstonjen
They bring out the same arguments because they are waiting for a response from you. At least they have an argument.

Magus, if you didn't contradict yourself in your own posts, you might actually get somewhere with other people on these boards.

First of all, Mark doesn't bring out that argument because he is waiting for a response; I have answered that argument like 5 times in different threads. Mark keeps saying that because he has nothing better to argue about, so he says stupid one liners with no support other than, its a contradiction because he says so. The verse about "this generation shall not pass" is talking about the Generation that sees the end times, which Jesus just described. If you don't accept that explanation, thats your problem, but drop the argument because im sick of repeating myself. You will never accept my answer, so there is no point in bringing it up every post. I gave you my answer, if you don't like it fine, but move on.

Second, how did I contradict myself?

winstonjen · 07-20-2003, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
Second, how did I contradict myself?

You are on record as having said "The bible is meant to be taken literally, except when it clearly states that something is meant to be taken as a metaphor, like Jesus and his parables." Or words to that effect.

You then went on to say in another thread about the apple, A&E, and "Dying on the same day." You said that god did not lie. The only way to believe this is to not take the verse literally. And there is nothing in the text telling the reader to do this.

Hedwig · 07-20-2003, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
Rational, im rather disturbed at why you think Heaven will be one huge sex party. God forbids sex outside of marriage. Its adultery and fornication - so why would He allow it in Heaven? I can almost guarantee you, there will NOT be sex in Heaven. There is no need for it since the pleasures of the flesh will be gone.

We're forbidden from almost all forms of sex in this life and we're not allowed to get laid in the next.

Damn, you god sucks, Magus.

winstonjen · 07-20-2003, 06:09 PM

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Damn, you god sucks, Magus.

In more ways than one.

Spaz · 07-20-2003, 09:28 PM

Ok, well I'm not a biologist, but AFAIK, the purpose of having different sexes is to reproduce and pass on genes. The whole feeling good part of it is only secondary. Now without other gods for YHWH to reproduce with, having a cock-n-balls is kinda pointless. Along with the fact that YHWH is supposed to be all powerful and such, so he could be a she tomorrow just for the hell of it, and also experience any feeling he wanted by simply wanting too, but then again feelings are simply nerve impulses, and YHWH doesn't have nerves, so, well, but the all-powerful thing, so he could have nerve impulses to get the feeling for whatever reason...but the all-powerful, etc. thing just fucks it all up. And the angels, once again, would need no sex, at least the bible doesn't teach that they reproduce, except for that thing in genesis, but then that was forbidden right? So now there are just angel orgies? Gah, whatever...

Doctor X · 07-20-2003, 11:25 PM

Actually, the first thing they did after Eden was have sex. . . .

Remember, "be fruitful and multiply. . . ."

--J.D.

Queen of Swords · 07-21-2003, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Magus55
Eat, drink, handle objects, hug, etc.

If you eat and drink, do you also face the end result(s) of eating and drinking?

If not, where does the undigested food go? Does the excreta just vanish?

Where does the food come from? Is it grown in heaven, or does one simply have the ability to say, "Abracadabra, a cheese lasagna with mushrooms on the side" and it appears?

If hugging is permitted, is closed-mouth kissing allowed as well?

Not that I expect Magus to be able to answer any of this, but I had fun asking.

Treacle Worshipper · 07-21-2003, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by Rational BAC
And I think the turning point is about the age of 25 or so. So most obviously if there is a physical resurrection, we will all go to heaven with the bodies we had at the age of 25.

NEATO !!!!!!! I remember 25 as being a very good year.

<grin> I'm very happy for you. I, OTOH, am 25 now, and it looks like I'm going to have to spend eternity in a wheelchair according to your theory. Now if you'd said 23, I could've gone with that. That was a good year

TW

hezekiah jones · 07-21-2003, 05:21 AM

Originally posted by emotional
This cuts both ways, Magus. Thinking we're slaves of Satan and hellbound pretty much amounts to "inferior" in my book.

No shit. Although in my view it cuts one way, and the other way is simply the predictable response: "Blow me."

Fundies are neither fun nor dead.

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07-20-2003, 09:28 PM	#186
Spaz Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 6th Circle of Hell Posts: 1,093	Ok, well I'm not a biologist, but AFAIK, the purpose of having different sexes is to reproduce and pass on genes. The whole feeling good part of it is only secondary. Now without other gods for YHWH to reproduce with, having a cock-n-balls is kinda pointless. Along with the fact that YHWH is supposed to be all powerful and such, so he could be a she tomorrow just for the hell of it, and also experience any feeling he wanted by simply wanting too, but then again feelings are simply nerve impulses, and YHWH doesn't have nerves, so, well, but the all-powerful thing, so he could have nerve impulses to get the feeling for whatever reason...but the all-powerful, etc. thing just fucks it all up. And the angels, once again, would need no sex, at least the bible doesn't teach that they reproduce, except for that thing in genesis, but then that was forbidden right? So now there are just angel orgies? Gah, whatever...

07-20-2003, 11:25 PM	#187
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	Actually, the first thing they did after Eden was have sex. . . . Remember, "be fruitful and multiply. . . ." --J.D.

07-21-2003, 12:04 AM	#188
Queen of Swords Contributor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada. Finally. Posts: 10,155	Originally posted by Magus55 Eat, drink, handle objects, hug, etc. If you eat and drink, do you also face the end result(s) of eating and drinking? If not, where does the undigested food go? Does the excreta just vanish? Where does the food come from? Is it grown in heaven, or does one simply have the ability to say, "Abracadabra, a cheese lasagna with mushrooms on the side" and it appears? If hugging is permitted, is closed-mouth kissing allowed as well? Not that I expect Magus to be able to answer any of this, but I had fun asking.

07-21-2003, 05:02 AM	#189
Treacle Worshipper Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 931	Originally posted by Rational BAC And I think the turning point is about the age of 25 or so. So most obviously if there is a physical resurrection, we will all go to heaven with the bodies we had at the age of 25. NEATO !!!!!!! I remember 25 as being a very good year. <grin> I'm very happy for you. I, OTOH, am 25 now, and it looks like I'm going to have to spend eternity in a wheelchair according to your theory. Now if you'd said 23, I could've gone with that. That was a good year TW

07-21-2003, 05:21 AM	#190
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	Originally posted by emotional This cuts both ways, Magus. Thinking we're slaves of Satan and hellbound pretty much amounts to "inferior" in my book. No shit. Although in my view it cuts one way, and the other way is simply the predictable response: "Blow me." Fundies are neither fun nor dead.

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