Syphor

No. Is there any possibility that 1 + 1 = 3? Determinism cannot be any simpler.

I’m no philosophy expert but there are a couple of alternatives, Indeterminism and Agency. Indeterminism basically says that events happen without causes, and Agency is similar to your position I think. Of the three it’s obvious which one is most logical, and doesn’t require supernatural phenomenon to occur. I might add that Determinism comes in different forms as well.

Listen, this ‘all times’ doesn’t work. If God exists in my present, next week, then how will he not know what I do tomorrow? And as above -

God is omniscient and therefore knows you're going to do x, so how can what you do be anything other than x?

Creating the universe that led to my existence is cause enough.

They were not intended to be scientific. They were intended to better explain my position.

Simple, each twin is acting as an influence on the other. Typically with twins the notion that they will behave alike because they look alike is what creates different behavioural patterns, want, desires etc. Put them in completely separate but identical (and I do mean identical) environments and see what happens.

Nor can God; so why exactly are you posting on an Atheist message board again?

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Ryanfire

luvluv regurgitate more of your programmed beliefs.

After reviewing your replies, you seem to run around a question with your limited beliefs and never seem to take a question head on.

You can't explain shit with your beliefs, as they have nothing to do with known truth.

Your answer for anything and everything is "goddidit".

Your position is already set up
1) You take in god first
2) You then review the material evidence at hand
3) If it contradicts your belief(god) then 4, if not 5.
4) You won't believe the truth because you don't believe 3 is possible.
5) Goddidit yay!!!

There you have it, the religious paradox of belief

Evidence has no meaning to the belief system.
So luvluv.. argue he has no proof of his claims, but his evidence(his world of logic and reasoning) will never work in your world of belief!

He could sell you the proof, you will however never buy it!

At least not in your world of belief &gt;

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