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Arken · 07-04-2003, 08:33 AM

Huh. According to that chart, even the giant squid can be more than 12 meters. I thought they were more like 2-3... I guess the tentacles make them much longer.

Marduk · 07-04-2003, 09:02 AM

�Do research institutes and universities keep DNA databases to compare new tissue samples with? I'd be surprised if they didn't.�

Yes they do, in fact they have used it to track illegal whale hunting. They can grab a piece of whale meat off a store shelf and find out where it came from with the database of whale DNA.

Jesse · 07-12-2003, 08:56 AM

Apparently it was sperm whale blubber:

http://famulus.msnbc.com/FamulusIntl...p?reg=AMERICAS

Quote:

Chilean experts say beached ''blob'' a sperm whale

SANTIAGO, Chile, July 11 � Chilean scientists said on Friday their study of a huge blob of flesh found on a Pacific beach about three weeks ago concluded it was the carcass of a sperm whale, ending speculation of a giant octopus.

Scientists have been baffled by the 40-foot-long (12-metre) mass of gelatinous tissue found on a remote beach in southern Chile, with initial hunches ranging from whale blubber to a disputed species of giant octopus.

Researchers at the Museum of Natural History in Santiago were the first to reach a conclusion after analyzing samples of the decaying specimen and finding glands of a sperm whale.

"It has not been necessary to do DNA analysis in order to obtain identification, it was enough to find the dermal glands that belong only to this group,'' the scientists Sergio Letelier and Jose Yanez said in a statement.

The sperm whale, made famous by Herman Melville's Moby Dick, is the largest of the toothed whales and dives deeper than any other whale. The males measure up to 65 feet (20 meters) in length and weigh about 50 tonnes.

When a sperm whale dies at sea, it rots until it becomes a ''skeleton suspended in a semi-liquid mass within a bag of skin and blubber,'' the scientists said. Eventually, the skin tears and the bones sinks while the skin and blubber float.

''This washes up and has the appearance of an octopus because the spermaceti organ keeps its bulky shape,'' they added.

The spermaceti is a large bulbous organ that forms a sort of forehead and contains a milky wax which early whalers likened to sperm fluid.

Arken · 07-12-2003, 09:30 PM

What a disappointing anticlimax. Sometimes I wish the world really was as mysterious as the new agers think it is...

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07-04-2003, 08:33 AM	#11
Arken Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 6,303	Huh. According to that chart, even the giant squid can be more than 12 meters. I thought they were more like 2-3... I guess the tentacles make them much longer.

07-04-2003, 09:02 AM	#12
Marduk Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the 10th planet Posts: 5,065	�Do research institutes and universities keep DNA databases to compare new tissue samples with? I'd be surprised if they didn't.� Yes they do, in fact they have used it to track illegal whale hunting. They can grab a piece of whale meat off a store shelf and find out where it came from with the database of whale DNA.

07-12-2003, 09:30 PM	#14
Arken Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 6,303	What a disappointing anticlimax. Sometimes I wish the world really was as mysterious as the new agers think it is...

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