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PaladInChrist · 06-25-2003, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Biff the unclean
Are you saying then that the morals of the author of the Koran aren't acceptable to 21st century society?

Nice...good one.

sphinx wui · 06-25-2003, 03:34 PM

emotional wrote,
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= Mohamed was son of a whore.

I think sincerely that you confuse Mohamed with Jesus.

Let us examine your statement historically, Mohamed�s mother was Amina Bint Waheb and his father was Abdulah Ibn Abdul Motaleb, from a well known family in Mecca. His mother died when he was 6 years old and there is no historical evidence that his mother was a prostitute.

Let us now have a look at another historical figure, Jesus Christ, his mother was Mary and his father was ???????????????????? We have to speculate now.

According to the Jewish Talmud,

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

According to a recent BBC documentary,
she might be raped by a Roman solider.

According to Pat Robertson,
god fucked her.

My own speculation: poor young Mary (age unknown like many things in Christianity, may be 11 or 13!!!) had a nice time with her fianc� Joseph the carpenter but due to the fact that there were no condoms during those days and Joseph wasn�t a big fan of anal sex or blowjobs, she got herself in troubles and poor Jesus paid a heavy price for this mistake later on.

Rational conclusion, Jesus was a son of a whore called Mary.

Good night
Omar

ComestibleVenom · 06-25-2003, 04:46 PM

Let's give mohammad some credit. He may have been all over children who were comparatively young, but the ratio of Mary's age to God's age is zero!

Biff the unclean · 06-25-2003, 05:49 PM

When my wife is asked her age if you subtract from the number she gives the number of years we've been married it looks like she was in preschool when we were hitched too.

Then there was the year that I became older than my mother admitted to being. For a few weeks she toyed with the idea of passing me off as her brother.

Demigawd · 06-25-2003, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ComestibleVenom
Let's give mohammad some credit. He may have been all over children who were comparatively young, but the ratio of Mary's age to God's age is zero!

Same goes for Zeus. He was all over any young maiden who caught His eye. Many a demigod and hero came from such a divine dalliance.

Magus55 · 06-25-2003, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ComestibleVenom
Let's give mohammad some credit. He may have been all over children who were comparatively young, but the ratio of Mary's age to God's age is zero!

Mary didn't marry God or have any physical relations with Him. God cast the shadow of the Holy Spirit over Her, and she was pregnant. God never even physically touched Mary.

And while it was common in ancient days for young women to marry early, probably in their early to mid teens - 6 is quite a stretch.

sphinx wui · 06-25-2003, 07:25 PM

Magus wrote,

Mary didn't marry God or have any physical relations with Him. God cast the shadow of the Holy Spirit over Her, and she was pregnant. God never even physically touched Mary.

This is a part of Walt Disney movie or what?
Can I cast the shadow of my holly spirit over y� �� .. ��

Magus wrote,

And while it was common in ancient days for young women to marry early, probably in their early to mid teens - 6 is quite a stretch.

Can you give me any credible account of Mary�s age please? Or you don�t know? i don't blame you if you don't have any historical evidence, even Jesus himself has little to suport his existence let a side his mother and her boyfriend Joseph with his rock hard shadow of the holy spirit!!

And why the Jews- her own clan by the way- called her a whore? At least �sinful Mohamed� was polite regarding her.

BTW, why Christian priests keep molesting young kids? They want to follow the tradition of their god or they just casting the shadow of the holy spirit over the kids?

winstonjen · 06-25-2003, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magus55
Mary didn't marry God or have any physical relations with Him. God cast the shadow of the Holy Spirit over Her, and she was pregnant. God never even physically touched Mary.

Really. I always thought it was 'holy rape'.

Calzaer · 06-25-2003, 08:47 PM

Jesus was a bastard (Mary wasn't married when she concieved, and she NEVER married God). According to Leviticus 23:2, that means he's not allowed to enter the church. How could he be the messiah if he's not allowed into the church?

sphinx wui · 06-25-2003, 11:10 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2598357.stm
quotes from the link:
It portrays her as a poor and downtrodden girl, who might have conceived Jesus as a result of being raped.
Virgin birth doubts

His comments coincided with a survey carried out by the Sunday Telegraph, which suggested more than a quarter of Church of England clergy did not believe in the virgin birth.
The paper asked the opinions of 500 clergymen and women, 27% of whom said they did not accept the traditional account.
The BBC documentary raises doubts about other traditions, including the birth of Jesus in a stable at Bethlehem and the presence of three wise men.

The programme said the traditional image of Mary as a blue-eyed, blonde haired woman wearing expensive blue robes was probably wrong.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2985375.stm
Quote from the link
BBC One's The Virgin Mary portrayed the central figure as an uneducated child aged 12 or 13 who was sold into marriage to an older man, but found herself pregnant while unmarried

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2999172.stm

Virgin Mary 'seen in US hospital'
I thought she is there seeking another IVF but this time from the holy science not from the backward holy spirit but here is the real reason,
A large plastic container for money has also been set there.

She is back to her original trade!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope you find those links helpful Magus.

Omar

06-25-2003, 03:34 PM	#12
sphinx wui Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: egypt Posts: 253	emotional confusion emotional wrote, �� = Mohamed was son of a whore. I think sincerely that you confuse Mohamed with Jesus. Let us examine your statement historically, Mohamed�s mother was Amina Bint Waheb and his father was Abdulah Ibn Abdul Motaleb, from a well known family in Mecca. His mother died when he was 6 years old and there is no historical evidence that his mother was a prostitute. Let us now have a look at another historical figure, Jesus Christ, his mother was Mary and his father was ???????????????????? We have to speculate now. According to the Jewish Talmud, Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men. According to a recent BBC documentary, she might be raped by a Roman solider. According to Pat Robertson, god fucked her. My own speculation: poor young Mary (age unknown like many things in Christianity, may be 11 or 13!!!) had a nice time with her fianc� Joseph the carpenter but due to the fact that there were no condoms during those days and Joseph wasn�t a big fan of anal sex or blowjobs, she got herself in troubles and poor Jesus paid a heavy price for this mistake later on. Rational conclusion, Jesus was a son of a whore called Mary. Good night Omar

06-25-2003, 04:46 PM	#13
ComestibleVenom Veteran Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,320	Re: emotional confusion Let's give mohammad some credit. He may have been all over children who were comparatively young, but the ratio of Mary's age to God's age is zero!

06-25-2003, 07:25 PM	#17
sphinx wui Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: egypt Posts: 253	the shadow of my holly spirit is rock hard! Magus wrote, Mary didn't marry God or have any physical relations with Him. God cast the shadow of the Holy Spirit over Her, and she was pregnant. God never even physically touched Mary. This is a part of Walt Disney movie or what? Can I cast the shadow of my holly spirit over y� �� .. �� Magus wrote, And while it was common in ancient days for young women to marry early, probably in their early to mid teens - 6 is quite a stretch. Can you give me any credible account of Mary�s age please? Or you don�t know? i don't blame you if you don't have any historical evidence, even Jesus himself has little to suport his existence let a side his mother and her boyfriend Joseph with his rock hard shadow of the holy spirit!! And why the Jews- her own clan by the way- called her a whore? At least �sinful Mohamed� was polite regarding her. BTW, why Christian priests keep molesting young kids? They want to follow the tradition of their god or they just casting the shadow of the holy spirit over the kids?

06-25-2003, 11:10 PM	#20
sphinx wui Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: egypt Posts: 253	Elsharmota Mary uncovered. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2598357.stm quotes from the link: It portrays her as a poor and downtrodden girl, who might have conceived Jesus as a result of being raped. Virgin birth doubts His comments coincided with a survey carried out by the Sunday Telegraph, which suggested more than a quarter of Church of England clergy did not believe in the virgin birth. The paper asked the opinions of 500 clergymen and women, 27% of whom said they did not accept the traditional account. The BBC documentary raises doubts about other traditions, including the birth of Jesus in a stable at Bethlehem and the presence of three wise men. The programme said the traditional image of Mary as a blue-eyed, blonde haired woman wearing expensive blue robes was probably wrong. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2985375.stm Quote from the link BBC One's The Virgin Mary portrayed the central figure as an uneducated child aged 12 or 13 who was sold into marriage to an older man, but found herself pregnant while unmarried http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2999172.stm Virgin Mary 'seen in US hospital' I thought she is there seeking another IVF but this time from the holy science not from the backward holy spirit but here is the real reason, A large plastic container for money has also been set there. She is back to her original trade!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you find those links helpful Magus. Omar

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06-25-2003, 05:49 PM	#14
Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	When my wife is asked her age if you subtract from the number she gives the number of years we've been married it looks like she was in preschool when we were hitched too. Then there was the year that I became older than my mother admitted to being. For a few weeks she toyed with the idea of passing me off as her brother.

06-25-2003, 08:47 PM	#19
Calzaer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,762	Jesus was a bastard (Mary wasn't married when she concieved, and she NEVER married God). According to Leviticus 23:2, that means he's not allowed to enter the church. How could he be the messiah if he's not allowed into the church?

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