agapeo

Well, being somewhat labelled as one of them thar religious types I will say two things.
1. I found it entertaining. but . . .
2. don't ya think ya should observe plagiarism laws around here.

David M. Payne

Would you like to clarify that remark about plagiarism agapeo?

David

agapeo

Oh, I probably really shouldn’t since I was being somewhat flippant in my comments, but . . .

Plagiarism
1. To use and pass off as one's own (the ideas or writings of another).
2. To appropriate for use as one's own passages or ideas from (another).

. . . whereas I found your style entertaining, there was nothing original about the story. I heard the same general ideas in the writings of others. Don’t let that disturb you though – the same is said regarding the Bible.

Edited to remove duplicate quote

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David M. Payne

So the gist of your statement is that I have plagiarized someone else's work and passed it off as my own. This is the most serious charge you can level at a writer. You also say there was nothing original in the story, which is an insulting remark. While it is true that I'm not the first to produce a piece of satire on God/religion, I'm unaware of any work just like mine. So I ask you to put up the work I plagiarized, and demonstrate my lack of originality, or retract your baseless slanderous statement. Put up or shut up agapeo!!!

David

Mad Kally

That is a serious allegation. Let's see you back it up with some evidence!

agapeo

Satire
1. a. A literary work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit. b. The branch of literature constituting such works. See synonyms at caricature.
2. Irony, sarcasm, or caustic wit used to attack or expose folly, vice, or stupidity.

I saw your story as satire and as such felt no inclination to debate it (even if I had the time to do so). Besides my original comments were in response to this:
Which I thought was a goad to draw the Christian community into a debate which really wasn’t necessary seeing that it IMO was satire.
In any case, since you took my post that serious and you perhaps have a valid point then I will simply shut-up but not before extending my apology. I really didn’t think you’d take it all that serious.

David M. Payne

Apology accepted agapeo. As I said, plagiarism is no light charge to level at a writer, and I have to take any such charges seriously. Yes, "Bob" is satire and it was intended to do just what your definition above said. I can't speak for P.Duck, but I am also surprised that the religious community has had such a weak response to "Bob." Good satire has the ability to point out the flaws in any dogma, and I think "Bob" did that pretty well. And as evidenced by the theist crowd's inability to put up any kind of meaningful response to it, they must think so also.

PS, You should change your word program from smart quotes to plain quotes so when people copy your posts it doesn’t come out looking like the one above does in the copy window. You can find a link in bugs, problems and complaints that tells you how to do it, <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=000520" target="_blank">here.</a>

David

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hal9000

That must be it DP, it’s irrefutable!

peekingduck

agapeo
"The story of Bob" is a pretty strong attack on religious beliefs. What Mr. Payne said makes sense to me even if it is satire and good satire makes one think. I find many stories in the bible make no sense at all!

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agapeo

Thanks for the tip DP. Will do.