Cipher Girl

Since humans are social animals, they relate to everything in a social way. This includes talking to animals, cars, the weather, etc, as though those things are human. I think that talking to a god is the same thing as a person anthromorphizing (?) their environment or the universe in general.

Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.

winstonjen

Don't you have better things to do than spout rhetoric from the Bible at us?

Amie

Hi Shadownought

I do not necessarily think humans need a God, maybe some feel so I just think that many people want to believe that there is more out there than what we have here in this world, in this life...

I believe in God because I want to believe in God. Aside from the fact that my God belief is all I have ever known, I feel that it is right for me...

I don't think people should believe or worship for any particular reasons. I find comfort in my own belief, but I cant expect someone to find that same comfort from my belief. So to each their own.

first of all Shadow does not appear lost to me, he is asking a question. The ones who would be lost would be the ones who don't ask.
oh and you better believe if I was quoting scripture I would not be "making fun of it"...
most atheists I know are not anti-theists.

who is this "we" you are speaking for?? speak for yourself and yourself alone bub!
and no one is going to answer shadow?
why not?

Shadownought I think the people that feel you should believe are the ones that would feel lost without their God belief...

better a beer than a lobotomy...

I dunno Infinity since you tend to follow me around what do you think love bug?

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Infinity Lover

Shucks. She called me love bug duh huh :stupid grin:

As a smartass atheist I'd say you need a god, because all your neighbors and friends got one, and they make great pets.

But on a serious note, I don't think to believers it's a matter of need, but rather erm... belief.

Butters

Sound of Butters screaming hysterically as he runs down the street gougeing his eyes, finally driven mad by Catholic wordplay.

Rousseau_CHN

Amie,

That is true, maybe I shouldn't speak on anyone's behalf...so I'll restate: "You don't need a God."

You also said, "Not all atheist are anti-theist..." Sad but true. I've read a lot of post here that supports your claim.

I think there was this atheist father who was tutoring his son on religion.

And then there is this other atheist guy who would kick my ass, if he ever gets a chance, because his girlfriend is a devout Catholic.

You also said that there is a need for this post in this forum.

Foot-In-Mouth Time <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

OK, ok, there is a place for this kind of stuff.
It's a freethinker forum--everything is to be discussed--everything is to be doubted-- nothing is to be held sacred. Not even atheism.

Amie

Hi Rousseau_CHN

why would you think it is "sad"? why would you prefer all atheists to be anti-theist? Just curious...

Amos

Humans do not need a God and religion does not aim to give humans a God. Religion must give humans an idea of God that foreshadow events that someday must become a reality without religion.

The worship part does not really belong in religion but absorption, veneration and admiration does.

emotional

On the one hand:

Can any of the theists on the board tell me

On the other hand:

why humans need a god?

I could understand it if the first part had "atheists" instead of "theists". Atheists assume people believe in God because they need to. But here you're asking theists why they need a god, which is damn contradictory. Theists don't think they need a god, they believe God exists and you need Him, not the other way round.

My apology for harshness, but I think your question was worded badly from the start.

WWSD

God creates fallable creatures knowing that they would fail.

Then he/it/they create a hell to send said fallable creatures to.

Then it/they/he threatens them with it's hell.

THEN it/she/him/her/it/they/3=1 comes and "redeems" the fallable creatures, but only if they admit that they suck big time.

So, after a very roundabout trip, he/she/him/it/they/them/tres hombres finally brings the best of his crappy creations to heaven while all the others suffer forever and ever amen.

What wierd game is this god of yours playing?