yguy

The spread of AIDS in Africa is caused by lack of condom distribution?

winstonjen

Of course. If they actually ALLOWED methods of contraception like condoms, the spread of HIV/AIDS would be lessened.

yguy

You're kidding, right?

Fr.Andrew

(dk): Seems probable that gay men are most often victimized by gay men.
(Fr Andrew): Sigh... Why am I not surprised?

(dk): or is homophobia a ruse to generate irrational fear within the gay community, and garner sympathy from the general public.
(Fr Andrew): No...I thought we'd already established that homophobia is an attitude toward gay people and their sexual practices.

(dk): Near as I can tell gays are by and large well educated upper middle class city dwellers.
(Fr Andrew): You need to get out more often. Homosexuality, just like heterosexuality and bisexuality, is unrelated to education, wealth, location, social status, religious affiliation, gender or which ear is pierced. Or hair color. There are gay people among the urban elite and among the rural poor. There are fat queers and skinny ones. Male and female. White ones and black ones. Tall ones and short ones. Hairy/bald.
There are homo hairdressers and professional athletes. Soldiers and sailors. Butchers and bakers.
You name it.

(dk): In fact I've never seen any evidence gays are systematically oppressed or victimized apart from masochistic norms celebrated in gay culture.
(Fr Andrew): I suggest that you've seen evidence and chosen to ignore it as contrary to your prejudice. Volumes have been documented and presented in various efforts around the country to add sexual orientation to the classes of those already protected under anti-discrimination laws.

winstonjen

What do you mean? Although not 100% effective at controlling AIDS, it is a good start. What would you suggest - castrating everyone with AIDS? Killing them all?

Fr.Andrew

(Fr Andrew): That's much of it. That...and education. There's a lot of ignorance to overcome.

Dr Rick

Well, yeah; like, that's so obvious .

Nonetheless, that should not preclude us from arriving at an ethical concept even if we must start with an irrational form.

Beatlemania in the US has been an epedemic [sic] for over 40 years, and many bird lovers still blame others for their own failure (peace be with you, Don Johnson), and in doing so make themselves loosers. Not everybody in the Maoist movement made the mistakes, to learn from their mistakes, and move on to become investment brokers and/or Rainbow vacuum salespersons.

Nobodies immune. The hard fact never changes. To irraticate a deadly contagous incurable disease like bottled water, we (all of us) must stop it from spreading to the next generations. We've all failed. There's no shame except to blame others. That's why we blame others

I know those that blame society for the spread of Brittany Spears to the next generation are loosers.

simple.

bisexual.

Everybody fails, loosers can't help themselves because they are incapable of a mistake, and blame Martha Stewart.

Twiggy and American Bandstand blame others for 30 years of failures and wasting $billions on a failed agenda to make "chimneys safe". Simple.

SUVs in the US have been an epedemic [sic] for over 20 years, and many left-handers still blame others for their own failure, and in doing so make themselves loosers. Not everybody in the Sidewalk, Vanilla, Recliner Chairs, Buick Rights Movement blame others; some have stopped to reflect upon the mistakes, to learn from their mistakes and move on to become retailers.

Nobodies immune. The hard fact never changes. To irraticate a deadly contagous incurable disease like the WWF, we (all of us) must stop it from spreading to the next generations. We've all failed. There's no shame except to blame others. I know housekeepers that blame society for the spread of masticastion to the next generation are loosers. simple.

March on. Be fun. Act cool. do. Something.

yguy

Does the phrase "taking up the white man's burden" mean anything to you? Does it not occur to you that you are talking about these people as if they were animals incapable of self-restraint who compel us to manage their lives for them?

That aside, from a logical POV, the cause of the AIDS epidemic in Africa is obviously not lack of condoms, but Africans copulating irresponsibly. They don't have to do that, but they do it anyway.

yguy

It's more than ignorance. What kind of a guy would believe you can cure AIDS by screwing a virgin? A stupid guy? I doubt it - more likely just a degenerate creep.

Fr.Andrew

(Fr Andrew): Does it not occur to you that a reference to "Africans copulating irresponsibly" is "talking about these people as if they were animals incapable of self-restraint"?

And does it not occur to you that responsible copulation would involve condom use?