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Old 07-29-2003, 12:33 PM   #41
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14 for sex involving a female. 18 for sex involving two males.
Not quite. In Canada, the 18 rule is for anal intercourse, and this law has been struck down in the two largest provinces (which represent about 2/3 of the population). And standard vaginal sex with someone as young as 12 is legal, so long as both parties are within 2 years of age of each other.
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That's not what I said either. Not everything can be broken down into a black-white syllogism.
By not answering the question, you have answered it.
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Old 07-29-2003, 02:59 PM   #43
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It shivers my timbers that in that State I still could have been arrested in 1995 for that 'crime' (in that state you can be arrested for statutory rape 7 years after the 'victim's' 18th birthday. If that had happened, I would have been the victim.
Had I been the judge, I'd've thrown your ass in jail and slept like a baby.
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Old 07-29-2003, 04:15 PM   #44
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Had I been the judge, I'd've thrown your ass in jail and slept like a baby.

...with protesters outside your door. When the 'victim' gives informed consent, there is no victim. When the victim appears older than they actually are, then it is not pedophilia, because it is not attraction to a child - it is attraction to what is perceived as an adult body.

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Waking up every 2 hours, you mean?
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Old 07-29-2003, 04:18 PM   #45
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yguy: You are a silly person. Obviously, the way the laws are worded you would have had legal standing to throw me in jail. Big deal.

You are acting as if I willfully did something wrong. From a purely ethical standpoint, I was the victim of a predator. Furthermore, I was not her only victim. Do you suggest that the other men she conned into thinking she was an adult should have been arrested too (I know of at least one other, even older than me)?

Furthermore, if the whole episode had taken place even 80 years earlier, it would not have even been a crime. In fact, if it had happened when it did, but in Hawaii, it would have not been a crime at all.

I 'dated' this girl for a little over 2 weeks, the last week of which I hardly saw her. I met her father. I discovered that part of this scam was that she told her father that I was 16 (I did and do look young for my age). Her father and I sat there talking a bit before I took her out on our only formal date. Only later did I realize that I was talking to a man who I thought was the father of a 19 year old who thought that he was talking to a 16 year old. No wonder he talked to me like I was some punk ass high school kid!!!

Incidentally, I broke up with her before the revelation that she was a child for a completely different reason. We were on the way to the beach and the subject of the efficacy of condoms came up. She then told me that if she got pregnant, she would get an abortion and not even tell me that she was ever pregnant. I had a visceral reaction to this statement and I immediately turned the car around, pulled into her yard and told her to "get the fuck out". Those exact words. It was a few days after this that the little boy was going to give me a whipping.

yguy, I have no doubts that if I had been arrested and you were the judge, rather than thinking you would have hid behind the law and exploited it to impose your hyper-puritanical morality on me. I also have no doubts that you would sleep like a baby because you think that the way it should be is that even if she was 20, I should have gone to jail (despite the fact I was 19 at the time???). I also notice that you have not provided a decent argument for raising the age of consent to 21.

That you would have thrown me in jail and slept like a baby matters not until you show why the AoC should be raised to 21. Until you do so, I can only regard everything you say on this matter as the rantings of a madman.
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If that 14 year old boy tracks you down NOW, I'm putting my money on him.

He's probably grown.
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BDS: I recommend you reread my previous two posts. the 14 year old is a she. Unless you are talking about the boy who was going to beat me up. In which case, why would I have a reason to fight him now, all these years later. Why would he have a reason to track me down?

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He is grown... unless he's dead. These events took place 19 years ago.

Why would you put your money on him, even if there was an impending fight between us. You know nothing about me or him. I know me, and even I am not sure where I would put my money.

To the other readers of these posts: I am new at this stuff. Is BDS an example of what they refer to as a 'troll'?
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Give me a break, McDuffie. It was all in good fun. Just another way of saying, "I have nothing to add, but I read and enjoyed your story."

I'd put my money on him as a random gamble. Also, if you're 38, and he's 34, he'd have a slight age advantage.
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Had I been the judge, I'd've thrown your ass in jail and slept like a baby.
Did you read his post? I know more than one guy that that has happened to.

And for the record, as much as I hate to admit it, I was one of those girls when I was fifteen. (Yes, I'm a girl...in case you were unclear.) I lied about my age because I didn't like dating the boys I went to school with.
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yguy: You are a silly person. Obviously, the way the laws are worded you would have had legal standing to throw me in jail. Big deal.

You are acting as if I willfully did something wrong.
Not at all. I don't care whether you think you did something wrong or not.

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From a purely ethical standpoint, I was the victim of a predator.
It has been said that you can't cheat an honest man.

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Furthermore, I was not her only victim. Do you suggest that the other men she conned into thinking she was an adult should have been arrested too (I know of at least one other, even older than me)?
Absolutely.

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Furthermore, if the whole episode had taken place even 80 years earlier, it would not have even been a crime. In fact, if it had happened when it did, but in Hawaii, it would have not been a crime at all.
I don't know how this is relevant, since lynching blacks wasn't a crime a couple of hundred years ago.

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I 'dated' this girl for a little over 2 weeks, <snip self-justification>
And you just HAD to have sex with her, didn't you?

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I also notice that you have not provided a decent argument for raising the age of consent to 21.
I'd settle for 18 and having the law strictly enforced. Three years isn't that big a deal.
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