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Seeker630 · 07-09-2003, 06:04 AM

I'm not sure if this is the right board for this, but here goes.

I was reading in a thread over at Beliefnet earlier today, and the initial poster made the comment that the two Columbine shooters, Klebold and Harris, were atheists. Now it seems to me that long ago I read something that said that they had in fact come from some sort of Christian family backrounds. Right after the shootings there was speculation that the two were in fact atheists. Yet a Sheriff's Dept. report (I could be wrong on this ) said that there was no evidence to suggest such a thing.

Can anyone provide a link to this subject in an article or something? I tried Google and came up with nothing solid. I also tried the American Atheists website and found even less. Have any of you seen anything that would indicate that they were in fact atheists? Did any of their parents make any public statements about their religious beliefs or backround?

Jacey · 07-09-2003, 07:50 AM

Don't quote me on this at all, my memory is very hazy, but I recall that they were non-practicing xians.

GaryP · 07-09-2003, 09:12 AM

Klebold came from a Jewish family.

In fact, his maternal grandfather was honored in Columbus by having the Jewish Center named after him. (I can't recall the name though.)
I've read that he went to a Passover service just a few days before the massacre.

I don't know about Harris. But the community around Columbine has a lot of Evangelical type christian Churches.

I don't think either were Atheists.

Viti · 07-09-2003, 09:17 AM

So many things surrounding that are completely made up. People can't understand how this could happen in their neighborhood (I lived in Littleton and still have family there) so they are trying to make these troubled kids some kind of "other" separate from "us". Atheism is an easy succint label and to them explains how this could happen in one word.

Shadowy Man · 07-09-2003, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by GaryP

In fact, his maternal grandfather was honored in Columbus by having the Jewish Center named after him. (I can't recall the name though.)
I've read that he went to a Passover service just a few days before the massacre.

That doesn't mean he's not an atheist.

It also doesn't mean that if he was an atheist, it had anything to do with his actions.

It's not like there aren't plenty of theists going around murdering people.

Roland98 · 07-09-2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by LadyShea
...so they are trying to make these troubled kids some kind of "other" separate from "us". Atheism is an easy succint label and to them explains how this could happen in one word.

Plus it explains why Christians were apparently targeted in the shootings--everyone knows that atheists want to murder all Christians.

Very sad.

Shake · 07-09-2003, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by Roland98
Plus it explains why Christians were apparently targeted in the shootings--everyone knows that atheists want to murder all Christians.

Very sad.

Yeah, don't forget that whole, "Do you believe in God?" story that was floating around shortly afterwards. The whole, "She said yes" thing ... can't remember the girl's name of the top of my head.

"yeah, it was those damned atheists ... and Marilyn Manson!"

Jacey · 07-09-2003, 10:45 AM

Of course, that whole "She said Yes" story is bullshit.............

GaryP · 07-09-2003, 10:47 AM

Some stuff about the killers;

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/23/columbine/

It was written in Sept. 99. So it may be dated.

Ronin · 07-09-2003, 06:42 PM

This is Eric Harris' AOL user profile ~

For the latin impaired...

Nil Sine Numine - Nothing without the Deity

Semper fidelis - Always faithful

Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you want peace, prepare for war!

~ sounds more like a Repugnican than a member of the EAC.

07-09-2003, 06:04 AM	#1
Seeker630 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: North America Posts: 1,624	Harris/Klebold question I'm not sure if this is the right board for this, but here goes. I was reading in a thread over at Beliefnet earlier today, and the initial poster made the comment that the two Columbine shooters, Klebold and Harris, were atheists. Now it seems to me that long ago I read something that said that they had in fact come from some sort of Christian family backrounds. Right after the shootings there was speculation that the two were in fact atheists. Yet a Sheriff's Dept. report (I could be wrong on this ) said that there was no evidence to suggest such a thing. Can anyone provide a link to this subject in an article or something? I tried Google and came up with nothing solid. I also tried the American Atheists website and found even less. Have any of you seen anything that would indicate that they were in fact atheists? Did any of their parents make any public statements about their religious beliefs or backround?

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07-09-2003, 07:50 AM	#2
Jacey Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: the gulag Posts: 3,043	Don't quote me on this at all, my memory is very hazy, but I recall that they were non-practicing xians.

07-09-2003, 09:12 AM	#3
GaryP Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lancaster, OH Posts: 1,792	Klebold came from a Jewish family. In fact, his maternal grandfather was honored in Columbus by having the Jewish Center named after him. (I can't recall the name though.) I've read that he went to a Passover service just a few days before the massacre. I don't know about Harris. But the community around Columbine has a lot of Evangelical type christian Churches. I don't think either were Atheists.

07-09-2003, 09:17 AM	#4
Viti Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Down South Posts: 12,879	So many things surrounding that are completely made up. People can't understand how this could happen in their neighborhood (I lived in Littleton and still have family there) so they are trying to make these troubled kids some kind of "other" separate from "us". Atheism is an easy succint label and to them explains how this could happen in one word.

07-09-2003, 10:45 AM	#8
Jacey Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: the gulag Posts: 3,043	Of course, that whole "She said Yes" story is bullshit.............

07-09-2003, 10:47 AM	#9
GaryP Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lancaster, OH Posts: 1,792	Some stuff about the killers; http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/23/columbine/ It was written in Sept. 99. So it may be dated.

07-09-2003, 06:42 PM	#10
Ronin Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 5,047	This is Eric Harris' AOL user profile ~ For the latin impaired... Nil Sine Numine - Nothing without the Deity Semper fidelis - Always faithful Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you want peace, prepare for war! ~ sounds more like a Repugnican than a member of the EAC.

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