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Jesus Ben Pandira. A ask-workman during the reign of Alexandre Jannaeus (106-79 B.C.), one of most pitiless of kings de Maccabean. With imprudence, this Jesus launched in a career end-times predict and agitation which disturbs the king. He met his own premature end-time while being hung on a tree - and the one Passover day before. The disciples speculé this Jesus founded the section of Essene.
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The ossuary mentioned is disputed as to its genuineness.
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Actually, I was thinking of the James ossuary, sorry.
However, I've done searches for this other ossuary and have found absolutely NO information on any such ossuary even existing. In fact, this link: http://www.graal.co.uk/ossuary.html states the disputed James ossuary is the earliest reference to a Jesus found. So I don't find any evidence anywhere supporting the Joseph and Mary ossuary. I looked for just "Joseph and Mary" in connection with ossuary also, and found nothing. |
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Copyright 1996 Associated Press AP Online
April 02, 1996; Tuesday 21:30 Eastern Time SECTION: International news LENGTH: 667 words HEADLINE: 'Jesus' Casket Found In Israel AP-Jesus-Tomb DATELINE: JERUSALEM BODY: Deep in the warehouse of the Israel Antiquities Authority, on a dusty crowded shelf, is a box that is empty except for a great question that it holds. The limestone box, catalogue No. 80.503, once contained human bones and is engraved in barely legible Hebrew: ''Jesus, son of Joseph.'' Officials allowed reporters to see it Tuesday, after researchers for the BBC stumbled on the ossuaries last month and speculated they may have been the caskets of Jesus Christ and his family. The 2- by 1-foot box, called an ossuary, was found along with nine others including two bearing the names Mary and Joseph by Israeli archaeologists in a Jewish burial chamber in Jerusalem in 1980 and then packed away in the warehouse with hundreds of other caskets. The bones that were in the caskets were reburied. The find ''will electrify the centuries-old debate: did Jesus' body really rise from the dead on Easter morning?'' BBC reporter Joan Bakewell wrote in The Sunday Times of London. But Israeli archaeologists and Bible scholars said Tuesday that Christians have no reason to worry that one of the pillars of their faith Jesus' resurrection is about to crumble. Jesus, Mary and Joseph were among the most common Jewish names in biblical times and that their appearance together in one place had little significance, they said. Biblical scholar Father Jerome Murphy O'Connor of Jerusalem's Ecole Biblique said there was no way to prove that the ossuary had contained the bones of Christ. But, he said, if such proof could be made, ''the consequences for the faith would be disastrous.'' The burial chamber was discovered in March 1980 during a salvage dig in the Armon Hanatziv area in southern Jerusalem before construction of a new neighborhood there. Archaeologists found 10 ossuaries, bones included, in the underground central chamber and six niches, said archaeologist Zvi Greenhut of the Antiquities Authority. Greenhut said the combination of the names Jesus, Mary and Joseph on the ossuaries did not prompt archaeologists at the time to probe further. ''The names are common names. There is nothing unique in the appearance of all names together,'' Greenhut said. He said that among the about 1,000 ossuaries from biblical times unearthed in Jerusalem, six carry the inscription ''Yeshua,'' or Jesus. Of those, two are engraved with the words ''Jesus, son of Joseph.'' He said about 25 percent of the women's caskets bore some form of the name Mary and that Joseph was the second most common man's name of the period. The BBC will screen its story on the ossuaries as part of its ''Heart of the Matter'' religious series on Easter Sunday. Ray Bruce, director of the independent television company CCTV that produced the program, said a check of a catalogue of ossuaries found that the names appeared only once in that combination. |
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Hmmmm... come to think of it, I did see a guy working at a Burger King in Cincinatti in 1987 who looked just like Jimmy. |
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