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Old 06-11-2003, 11:07 AM   #41
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that is the only source for which I forgot to provide. I share the source tomorrow, for my mom says that she does not want me to use this computer for the rest of the day. and therefore I am leaving. Goodbye.
You are wrong. You are throwing around mostly last names, and sometimes dates, but you are not supplying the literature from whence you've pulled your quotes. What books are you reading? What web sites are you pulling from? You have to provide more than "Another historian (Grey) says, 'I gotta snake, man!'"

The only proper citation I've seen in your writings is this: (Krementsov, N., Stalinist Science, Princeton University Press, Princeton, NJ, 1997, p. 66). And that is part of a humungus quote for which you failed to provide a source!
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Mr. T:
(on whether Stalin's purge victims were really evil plotters and enemies of the Soviet people...)
No, on the contrary it was highly likely.

For what reason?

He was the last man to sign the nonaggression pact. The Capitalist countries had signed it before him.

It was not made with the "capitalist countries" as a group, but with Nazi Germany, which had previously been a big enemy. And when Stalin did that, he decreed that the "fascists" were no longer the biggest enemy, but the democratic "imperialists".

And no, not helping "himself" (we are talking about a man who died with ten roubles in his pocket): helping to build Communism.

By building an empire in eastern Europe.

(sending POW's to the gulags...)

A very wise decision. I would have done the same thing.

For what reason???

(Trofim Lysenko...)
In fact, the remarkable, highly original, and yet ignored insights of Lysenko have turned out to be true in botany, soil science, and other fields.

Whatever those "insights" are supposed to be.

Lysenko had believed that genes do not exist. Yet they do.

He also had no understanding of how to conduct a controlled experiment, and he considered doing statistics a pointless waste of time.
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*bumped for Tot's consideration*
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After thinking about this, I wonder if there are some Stalinists who have their own Internet site, complete with defenses of his activities, including justifications of his crimes.

Because such a place may be where Mr. T is getting his ideas from; one wonders why he seems knowledgable in relatively obscure things like someone's defense of Trofim Lysenko as having made great contributions to biology.
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Old 06-13-2003, 11:09 AM   #45
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... my mom says that she does not want me to use this computer for the rest of the day.

Why that unconscionable fascist! I think it's about time we laid some serious totalitarian smack-ass on ol' mom, and sent her on rock breaking detail to the Gulag, eh wot? Let me contact the goon squad.
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All this talk about Stalin is making me hungry.
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