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ju'iblex · 05-21-2003, 02:52 PM

I agree with thebigzoo, I'm 5'10" and you know what, it's easier to take pant's up than it is to make them grow an extra 3 inches of material. I'm so glkad the trends are to make pants really really bag at the moment, God knows what I'm going to do when they go out of fashion again.

Soyin Milka · 05-21-2003, 03:01 PM

Hey

How about deodorant or anti-perspirant?
Men get twice as much as women for the same price. In metric, it's 70 grams versus 35 grams. The ingredients used are basically the same in both products though. Except the stuff for women comes with different fragrances. Big deal. The unscented anti-perspirant stuff for men is great. That's what I've been using for years now.

But I'm not hijacking the thread! Alli is the queen of this thread!
To arms and sewing machines! Trousers for everyone!
*curtsies*

Soyin

Opera Nut · 05-21-2003, 03:25 PM

Oh, and according to Vogue, "short" is five foot six!!

BWAAAAHAAHHAAAAHAAA!!!

They ain't livin on my planet. They never show flat heeled shoes either. You think I'm stupid enough to wear those painful foot wreckin' spike heeled hoe shoes??? No way!!

When men say women are stupid, the first thing they point to is painful shoes. Well, I don't wear painful shoes. I wear flat pointy ones since I have narrow pointy feet.

Some people just don't understand why some girls have to spend $350 for some nice Italian leather to get a good fit.

When I was married to a tree, I went to Tall Club parties. It was an ocean of elbows and tummies. The only way I could see across the room was to stand on the sofa. The girls there went up to six foot three, so I can imagine the clothing problems.

The tree's family used to chant "You're so SHORT! You're so SHORT!" when I came in their door, I kid you not. What a bunch of jackasses.

Looks liek this is the "Let's us girls commiserate about our weird sizes and plan to riot in the stores".

Aravnah Ornan · 05-21-2003, 09:00 PM

The sizing system for men's clothes may make sense, but not everything else about them does. Once I saw a pair of pants that I liked, but the salesmen in the men's department told me that they never stocked waist sizes smaller than 36", while the salesmen in the boys' department told me that they never stocked waist sizes larger than 26". The store would have had an easy sale if it hadn't counted on its customers to have the mother of all growth spurts. Also, it seems that, at least for American labels, the pants tend to be cut for men who pull the waistbands up to just below their armpits.

NonHomogenized · 05-21-2003, 10:19 PM

As a guy, I have a very similar problem. If I were to wear pants which are not horrendously baggy (yay for belts), I'd be shit out of luck. I have a 27 inch waist, 36 inch hips, and a 31 inch inseam. If it fits my waist, I can't fit in it. If it fits my hips, I need a good belt, or my boxers are showing, and I'm tripping on my pants.:banghead:
And don't even get me started on finding clothes that I'll actually wear. I'm a picky bastard.

Leesifer · 05-22-2003, 08:35 AM

Alli, I know exactly how you feel. I used to be able to buy my clothes from the child/teenager section of stores but since gaining extra inches round my waist, I can't get into them anymore.

I still find some petite clothes are too small round the waist and I can NEVER get the right length - being 4'10" is not the ideal height for off the peg clothes.

Time to go back on the diet methinks.

Richard1366 · 05-22-2003, 08:40 AM

The mass marketers are only interested in selling to the 80% market. The other 20% usually have to go elsewhere to a specialty store where clothing is normally more expensive. Men can go to Big and Tall stores, women can go to petite stores or tall stores.

There are other alternatives, learning to sew and altering your own clothes or taking your clothes to a tailor for alterations.

To me, the funniest thing with womens clothes is that when you go into a lower priced store and find a dress that fits and find out that it is a size 10, go into an exclusive store find a similar dress that fits the same and it will be marked a size 8. Why diet and exercise to lose dress sizes when all you have to do is to buy more expensive clothes.

lisarea · 05-22-2003, 09:07 AM

So, wear men's clothes.

The only women's clothes I fairly consistently wear are underwear and dresses. (I will cop to Superman boxers today, but that's kinda a laundry thang. Or a Superman thang.)

Basically, the difference between mens' and womens' pants is the hip to waist ratio. It's trivial to add little darts at the waist so you don't go all unintentionally hip-hop. Hems are easy, too. Mens' clothes tend to be cheaper and better made, whereas womens' clothes are designed for planned obsolescence, so IMO, the price and durability are well worth the minor effort involved in alterations.

Of course, if it's not already pretty obvious, I'm not exactly a big fashion plate. Today, in fact, I'm sporting a pair of my son's hand me down carpenter pants, and my big adjustments are that I have the waist rolled over several times, and I hike them up periodically, lest my secret identity be revealed.

Godless Dave · 05-22-2003, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lisarea
I will cop to Superman boxers today

Post proof or re--
oh never mind I give up

lisarea · 05-22-2003, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Godless Dave
Post proof or re--
oh never mind I give up

I hereby certify that Lisa is wearing my underwear today.

Signed,
Superman, Notary Public

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05-21-2003, 02:52 PM	#11
ju'iblex Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sydney Australia and beyond the realms of Gehenna Posts: 6,035	I agree with thebigzoo, I'm 5'10" and you know what, it's easier to take pant's up than it is to make them grow an extra 3 inches of material. I'm so glkad the trends are to make pants really really bag at the moment, God knows what I'm going to do when they go out of fashion again.

05-21-2003, 03:01 PM	#12
Soyin Milka Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Absurdistan Posts: 299	Hey How about deodorant or anti-perspirant? Men get twice as much as women for the same price. In metric, it's 70 grams versus 35 grams. The ingredients used are basically the same in both products though. Except the stuff for women comes with different fragrances. Big deal. The unscented anti-perspirant stuff for men is great. That's what I've been using for years now. But I'm not hijacking the thread! Alli is the queen of this thread! To arms and sewing machines! Trousers for everyone! curtsies Soyin

05-21-2003, 03:25 PM	#13
Opera Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,671	Oh, and according to Vogue, "short" is five foot six!! BWAAAAHAAHHAAAAHAAA!!! They ain't livin on my planet. They never show flat heeled shoes either. You think I'm stupid enough to wear those painful foot wreckin' spike heeled hoe shoes??? No way!! When men say women are stupid, the first thing they point to is painful shoes. Well, I don't wear painful shoes. I wear flat pointy ones since I have narrow pointy feet. Some people just don't understand why some girls have to spend $350 for some nice Italian leather to get a good fit. When I was married to a tree, I went to Tall Club parties. It was an ocean of elbows and tummies. The only way I could see across the room was to stand on the sofa. The girls there went up to six foot three, so I can imagine the clothing problems. The tree's family used to chant "You're so SHORT! You're so SHORT!" when I came in their door, I kid you not. What a bunch of jackasses. Looks liek this is the "Let's us girls commiserate about our weird sizes and plan to riot in the stores".

05-21-2003, 09:00 PM	#14
Aravnah Ornan Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA, Faith-Based States of Jesusland Posts: 1,794	The sizing system for men's clothes may make sense, but not everything else about them does. Once I saw a pair of pants that I liked, but the salesmen in the men's department told me that they never stocked waist sizes smaller than 36", while the salesmen in the boys' department told me that they never stocked waist sizes larger than 26". The store would have had an easy sale if it hadn't counted on its customers to have the mother of all growth spurts. Also, it seems that, at least for American labels, the pants tend to be cut for men who pull the waistbands up to just below their armpits.

05-21-2003, 10:19 PM	#15
NonHomogenized Veteran Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: no longer at IIDB Posts: 1,644	As a guy, I have a very similar problem. If I were to wear pants which are not horrendously baggy (yay for belts), I'd be shit out of luck. I have a 27 inch waist, 36 inch hips, and a 31 inch inseam. If it fits my waist, I can't fit in it. If it fits my hips, I need a good belt, or my boxers are showing, and I'm tripping on my pants.:banghead: And don't even get me started on finding clothes that I'll actually wear. I'm a picky bastard.

05-22-2003, 08:35 AM	#16
Leesifer Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: England Posts: 257	Alli, I know exactly how you feel. I used to be able to buy my clothes from the child/teenager section of stores but since gaining extra inches round my waist, I can't get into them anymore. I still find some petite clothes are too small round the waist and I can NEVER get the right length - being 4'10" is not the ideal height for off the peg clothes. Time to go back on the diet methinks.

05-22-2003, 08:40 AM	#17
Richard1366 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,260	The mass marketers are only interested in selling to the 80% market. The other 20% usually have to go elsewhere to a specialty store where clothing is normally more expensive. Men can go to Big and Tall stores, women can go to petite stores or tall stores. There are other alternatives, learning to sew and altering your own clothes or taking your clothes to a tailor for alterations. To me, the funniest thing with womens clothes is that when you go into a lower priced store and find a dress that fits and find out that it is a size 10, go into an exclusive store find a similar dress that fits the same and it will be marked a size 8. Why diet and exercise to lose dress sizes when all you have to do is to buy more expensive clothes.

05-22-2003, 09:07 AM	#18
lisarea Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Broomfield, Colorado, USA Posts: 5,550	So, wear men's clothes. The only women's clothes I fairly consistently wear are underwear and dresses. (I will cop to Superman boxers today, but that's kinda a laundry thang. Or a Superman thang.) Basically, the difference between mens' and womens' pants is the hip to waist ratio. It's trivial to add little darts at the waist so you don't go all unintentionally hip-hop. Hems are easy, too. Mens' clothes tend to be cheaper and better made, whereas womens' clothes are designed for planned obsolescence, so IMO, the price and durability are well worth the minor effort involved in alterations. Of course, if it's not already pretty obvious, I'm not exactly a big fashion plate. Today, in fact, I'm sporting a pair of my son's hand me down carpenter pants, and my big adjustments are that I have the waist rolled over several times, and I hike them up periodically, lest my secret identity be revealed.

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