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Old 08-17-2003, 06:00 PM   #11
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Default Re: Branch from "It's All God's Fault!"

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"No matter how you slice it, dice it, or sugar-coat it; no matter how you try to interpolate it, twist it, or spin it; no matter how many wordy, esoteric, philosophical arguments you come up with; no matter how many dead saints you quote; you cannot absolve God of the ultimate responsibility for all the world�s pain, suffering, agony, evil and sin, unless you are willing to violate or modify the the way God is described in the Bible. And the millisecond that you modify one of his attributes, you�ve changed the very basis of what you say is your belief. You have made him less than the God you claim him to be. He is no longer the Christian God, but YOUR God."
Well, I disagree with this--there's always been a great deal of debate about what the attributes of the Christian god actually mean.
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This is Sophie signing off.

Phew! I know and accept that I am not one of the brightest or most learned of our happy breed here at II, so I feel no shame whatsoever in admitting that 99% of the time I have had absolutely no idea what Sophie has been going on about. The language she used looked vaguely like English, but I suspect it was actually closer to that oldest and greatest of international tongues, Complete Bollocks.
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I think she is a French-Canadian post-modernist.
 
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This is Sophie signing off.

Phew! I know and accept that I am not one of the brightest or most learned of our happy breed here at II, so I feel no shame whatsoever in admitting that 99% of the time I have had absolutely no idea what Sophie has been going on about. The language she used looked vaguely like English, but I suspect it was actually closer to that oldest and greatest of international tongues, Complete Bollocks.
Phew, I'm not the only one. When I first joined this board a few weeks ago, I thought I just "didn't get it" when I read her posts. I now realize that there wasn't much to get.
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I think she is a French-Canadian post-modernist.
I've always thought that those who regard themselves as "post-modern" were the epitome of pseudo-intellectual BS. "Oh, the modern world is just so yesterday...".

I prefer to call them post-cognitivists.
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I've always thought that those who regard themselves as "post-modern" were the epitome of pseudo-intellectual BS. "Oh, the modern world is just so yesterday...".
Well, those whom the cap fits may wear it.

I'm not 100% certain that sophie would categorise herself as a "post-modernist". It's just that this is the impression I have received from most of her posts that I have read.
 
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In all seriousness, I think she was another immature--I mean that in the sense of wisdom and not as an insult--person who thought she stumbled on a really clever idea.

When you get older, you realize a lot of clever ideas are not really that clever.

Unfortunately, she compensated with arrogance. You cannot learn anything in that state.

--J.D.
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Default Re: Branch from "It's All God's Fault!"

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"He is no longer the Christian God, but YOUR God."
This is how I feel. Christianity may be a fluid, maleable religion - a fact that has probably led to its acceptance by so many in so many different cultures - but is it really Christianity? Its why I don't get the "there is something out there but its not God" type of liberal Christians (if it ain't God, you ain't a Christian - and just going to a social club every Sunday don't make it so), nor the bible thumping fundamentalist who does worship such a devil.
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