HelenM

you too

love
Helen

Amos

Thanks juliet, it was fun. If you want concrete evidence let me caution you that if ever you find a peace of the ark it will not be from your own.

If he had know
unstructured space is a deluge
and stocked his life-houseboat
with all of the animals
even the wolves,
he might have floated.

But obstinate he stated
the land is solid
and stamped,
watching his foot
sink down through stone
up to the knee.

Wyrdsmyth

Hang in there, Albert.

Sorry to hear that you are going through some rough times. I hope things pick up for you, soon.

Amos

Hello Jaliet, one last comment if I may.

You wrote the above as a side comment to Helen. It was meant to say that you do not agree with theists creating God in their image, such as I suggested is done by mythmakers in all parts of the world, and hence the different mythologies that are transparent to mythmakers because they all follow the same archetypal image which is real. Mythmakers ponder this reality and express this in unique and different ways with parables, metaphors and icons. It is true that some or many are copied from existing myths which does not matter at all if they serve the purpose well and are a good resemblance of the reality behind it. This in turn is, for example, why even Voodoo can be overshadowed by Catholicism because many/most of their rituals can be incorporated within the broad spectrum of Catholicism. There is nothing scary or freekish about that except that fundies must be censored there too before they get carried away and scatter the flock into oblivion (fundies are always a danger and Moses was their first leader who misled the children of Isreal because manna was "second hand" through Moses much like it is today through the bible). As a side note, this makes Moses a bad guy and a forerunner of Luther and company because to get to the promised land we must learn to walk on the celestial sea and not go through it just to find ourselves lost on the other side.

The mythology is for the benefit of the tribe and to improve the well-being of the tribe its members must be the agents through whom this wellness must become known. The purpose of the mythmaker is to have as many people as possible walk on this celestial sea, which is the TOK instead of the TOL. If succesfull in this the civilization will rise, if not the civilization will decline and eventually fall.

You insist that existence must precede essence because you want to know what actually is and you would let science take care of the advances we make as a civilization. This works to a certain extent but does not incorporate the distant well being of its members and hence will result in the decline of the civilization in the end.

Amos

Ted Hoffman

Thanks Amos 4r keeping this thread alive thus far. I am really disappointed that Albert cant participate, for whatever reasons.

sir drinks-a-lot

Yeah. This forum is getting boring now that Mr. Cipriani has left.

Amos

Have a drink and life will not seem so boring.

sir drinks-a-lot

You're preaching to the choir!

Albert Cipriani

Dear Jaliet et al,
The dot com I've been employed at restructured over my dead body, i.e., I've been laid off. My stock options there are now worthless and I've sold all my stock in it at a terrible loss. I've been diagnosed as being hyper manic and in order to avoid the mind-altering drugs I'm trying reeeel hard to be normal.

Ergo, don't cross me!

Just kidding. But everything else I said is true. My resultant depression has given way to garden-variety worry, which is much preferable. I'm sleeping better now, and being unemployed, I should have more time for this place.

Nothing could compare to, after a hard day at the office, coming home, flipping on my computer, and beating up atheists. It was habit forming. So I've felt strangely guilty, even apologetic, at being away from you this past month. I hope you didn't mind and can understand my leave of absence. I'll try to make it up to you now by punching out your lights!

I'll start where I left off on page one of this thread. – Cheers, Albert the Traditional Catholic

Ender

Boy, am i glad to see you back in action. Theists haven't been much fun lately, and my snappy posts have gone ignored or neglected as a result. What's this about beating up atheists?

~WiGGiN~