Joe6Pack

Dude , can't you read your own post? you said US military, not FBI or anyone else.

Thor Q. Mada

The point is that even without going there and have a look at the bridge, anyone with a brain the size of a bird would know that with simple equipment, you cannot bring down a bridge. The fact that somebody had to go there and say naaaaaa this cannot be done puts the brains behind Al Quada in severe doubt. That is my point. And these same people were going to put a nuclear device together?? Help Help

Loren Pechtel

The problem with such reasoning is that not all Al Quada people are that stupid. There's a tremendous range of skill.

Thor Q. Mada

You say that Loren, but it is difficult (in my doctrine) to believe that really educated people, and I mean scientists and engineers, can be religious fanatics. I mean it doesn't go together. This whole forum is about education, and when your are educated , the light shines, and backwardness is pushed back. Or isn't it??
And what is do you mean with tremendous range of skill?? Like what? Hi-jacking a plane with a box-cutter. Is that skill or stupidity?
Or blowing up oneselves with a truck loaded with explosives with THREE PEOPLE IN THE TRUCK, while one would have done the job.
Sceeming and teaming yes, but inteligence and skill I haven't seen thusfar. But if you have better info, let me know.
And I would have felt much better if Ascroft would have said hahahahah, they were going to bring the bridge down by cutting the wires, but that is not how he said it. He said this as if it was a real possibility.

Loren Pechtel

Originally posted by Thor Q. Mada
You say that Loren, but it is difficult (in my doctrine) to believe that really educated people, and I mean scientists and engineers, can be religious fanatics. I mean it doesn't go together. This whole forum is about education, and when your are educated , the light shines, and backwardness is pushed back. Or isn't it??

The 9/11 guys certainly weren't idiots. I do agree they won't get scientists but they don't need them.

Calzaer

Yes, they've abandonded the Brooklyn Bridge plan.

Now they're sending people out to examine the feasibility of punching a hole in the Hoover Dam with a power drill and a donkey-driven electric generator. If they're really serious, they might even be able to get a Dremmel rotary tool on the job, too.

Thor Q. Mada

Or do we think that this guy Reid that tried to blow-up a plane with his shoes was a well trained professional maybe?? I guess he asked for a box of matches to the stewardess??
I still have to see one shred of evidence that this organisation is anything but a bunch of stupid fanatics. Capable of anything yes, but all but professional or well organized.
OK, to hide the failure of our intelligence agencies, we have to make them more important than they are.
In my humble opinion, our intelligence agencies can not be questioned enough about their consistent faillure to be intelligent.
As Hans Blix said, it is impossible to have 100% certainty about WMD's and 0% certainty about their location.
Nobody made noise about it, but they also did not predict the collaps of Eastern Germany or Russia. They were as taken by surprise by the speed of events as anyone else reading newspapers on a regular basis.
A continuus faillure, probably cause by political pulling to left and right, and by political nominations.
And all these Washington think tanks, they make me laugh. They are all just there for the pork barrel.