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tensorproduct · 06-23-2003, 12:22 PM

Looks like St. Brigid's Cross, generally associated with Ireland and said (although not in front of priests) to predate Christianity's arrival to Ireland.

Here

Also, every Irish kid is forced to learn how to make these fucking things blindfolded by the time they're five. That's what you get in a country where the Church pretty much founded all the schools, and still controls many.

Corwin · 06-24-2003, 06:40 PM

Looks like a classic 'solar cross' to me, not specifically christian. (The christians use a form of it, but the representation of the sun with cross shaped rays extending from it shows up in any number of different cultures, from native american to asian to nordic.)

brighid · 06-25-2003, 08:11 AM

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Looks like St. Brigid's Cross, generally associated with Ireland and said (although not in front of priests) to predate Christianity's arrival to Ireland.

Yes, you are right and St. Brigid is a complete usurption of the Goddess Brigid of pagan times

They Irish simply would not give her up (including the virgins tending the fires at Kildare) and so the Church had no choice but to incorporate her into their pantheon of Saints. St. Brigid's story is coincidentally VERY similar to the mythology of the Goddess ... things that make you go hmmmmmmm......

Brighid

Godless Dave · 06-25-2003, 08:33 AM

Thanks for the info everyone! I suspected as much, but when I picked it out I had already had several drinks so I wasn't thinking straight. After my grandmother's funeral the whole family went through her jewelry box and a few other random possessions that hadn't been distributed yet. I snagged some nice champagne glasses but when my turn came again (we drew numbers) all that was left was jewelry. I didn't have much interest but the cross looked Celtic and was the only non-girly looking piece so I grabbed it. Maybe I'll give it to one of my cousins, but I'm not sure any of them would describe themselves as Christian.

chanoc · 07-07-2003, 09:52 AM

I found this to be an interesting article about crosses.

Biff the unclean · 07-07-2003, 01:40 PM

No, that's not Brigid's cross. It is a Celtic cross which was originally a "solar wheel" which is the symbol of the god Lugh (pronounced Lew) Actually to be a Xian Celtic cross one branch would have to be longer, so it's the Druidic sun all right.

07-07-2003, 09:52 AM	#15
chanoc Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Auke Bay, Alaska Posts: 422	The Pagan Cross I found this to be an interesting article about crosses.

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06-23-2003, 12:22 PM	#11
tensorproduct Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 1,330	Looks like St. Brigid's Cross, generally associated with Ireland and said (although not in front of priests) to predate Christianity's arrival to Ireland. Here Also, every Irish kid is forced to learn how to make these fucking things blindfolded by the time they're five. That's what you get in a country where the Church pretty much founded all the schools, and still controls many.

06-24-2003, 06:40 PM	#12
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Looks like a classic 'solar cross' to me, not specifically christian. (The christians use a form of it, but the representation of the sun with cross shaped rays extending from it shows up in any number of different cultures, from native american to asian to nordic.)

06-25-2003, 08:33 AM	#14
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	Thanks for the info everyone! I suspected as much, but when I picked it out I had already had several drinks so I wasn't thinking straight. After my grandmother's funeral the whole family went through her jewelry box and a few other random possessions that hadn't been distributed yet. I snagged some nice champagne glasses but when my turn came again (we drew numbers) all that was left was jewelry. I didn't have much interest but the cross looked Celtic and was the only non-girly looking piece so I grabbed it. Maybe I'll give it to one of my cousins, but I'm not sure any of them would describe themselves as Christian.

07-07-2003, 01:40 PM	#16
Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	No, that's not Brigid's cross. It is a Celtic cross which was originally a "solar wheel" which is the symbol of the god Lugh (pronounced Lew) Actually to be a Xian Celtic cross one branch would have to be longer, so it's the Druidic sun all right.

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