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Old 06-20-2003, 11:27 PM   #21
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I don't think Hitler was *strictly* elected. IIRC he was appointed chancellor after Hindenburg was elected president. I don't remember the details though... (However I suppose it can be said that Hitler achieved his initial position as chancellor via the "legitimate" workings of a democracy.)
True, he was appointed because he was leader of the strongest fraction (contrary to Bush). Also in contrast to Bush, Hitler did not have a brother in office who rigged the elections in his favor.

One thing that I find telling: if a guy becomes president whose father was leader of the country and furthermore this motive is widely repeated in senate and other elections - does that not make you think on how democratic your country can really be? I don;t know of anything like that occuring in europe since the monarchy days - correct me if i'm wrong.
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Old 06-21-2003, 01:26 PM   #22
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I don't think the US has ever been a democracy.

Now, of course, it is straying even farther from that ideal.

While many countries have been moving toward the goal of one person one vote, the US has been moving toward an ideal of Rule by Money, or Oligarchy.

Voting in the US is now merely an empty formality. You are presented with two handpicked candidates by the Owning Class. There is little difference between them. Whoever is elected will do what is promised: which is, to use the government as an enforcement arm for large corporations.

Bush is more naked and vigorous about this.

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