Doctor X

They opened a bagel shop in Corinth. . . .

Actually, Brighid, thank you for the information--particularly about not allowing people to take the bodies down. One of the whole reasons for hanging people up on things is that it serves as a "message" for others.

Some scholars wonder if Mk "made up" the whole crucifixion. In my mind, I wonder if "execution" was a "difficult story" that writers and believers had to deal with. However, if he was crucified, that fact does not salvage the passion narratives. I have to agree that the blame is placed on the Jews--power given to Pharasees they did not have, all the way to the "tradition" of letting some poor slob go for Passover.

A writer--after the destruction of Jerusalem--is not likely to blame the Romans!

--J.D.

brighid

Haahah ... that's bad, funny but bad

You are welcome. I am glad that information has been helpful.

Brighid

Overgrowngoblin

Rome would often establish "client kings" to rule on local or religious matters that did not require Roman authority to decide. Jesus (if he existed) was originally brought before Pontius Pilate on charges of treason — a crime against Roman laws. After hearing the evidence, however, Pilate found no evidence of treason, and referred the case to Herod — a client king — as a religious dispute. While Herod had the authority to rule on cases of blasphemy within the Jewish religion, he could not sentence Jesus to death. Capital punishment could only be invoked under Roman law. Jesus' case was settled by Pilate, who ordered his crucifixion

Just like Spartacus and his little uprising would definitely qualify as treason against the state. So it was nothing but crucifixions all around in this case to.

In the year 100 A.D. two languages held the Empire together. In the west, people learned to speak Latin and in the east they spoke Greek.

brighid

Overgrowngoblin,

Thank you for the information.

I just don't understand how Jesus' alleged action equated to treason against Rome by the ascertation that he was the son of God. Furthermore, I don't understand why the Jews did not stone and hang him (according to Biblical mandate and why there is reference to Jesus' hanging in various places in the Bible) and needed the Romans to execute this task. Were the Sanderhin powerless to execute individuals for religious crimes under Roman rule?

Brighid

Overgrowngoblin

Claiming that he was the son of God wasn’t so much a problem as claiming that he was the king of the Jews. Claiming you are the king of the Jews is a crime under Roman law – treason. Which is punishable by crucifixion. Which would also explain why the Romans put the sign on his cross: INRI -- Latin for: IESUS Naarenus Rex ludaeorum – English translation: “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

Overgrowngoblin

Under Roman occupation Capital punishment could only be invoked under Roman law. They did not have the authority to pronounce the death sentence.

karthik

Is it possible that Jews got ticked of by Jesus' blasphemy and took the case to the roman king who amazingly decided to comply with the Jews' request for a capital punishment?

Biff the unclean

But some how neglected to keep any records of it as they did for the other Jewish Messiahs around then. And somehow only condemed Jesus to "crucifixion lite" with no broken legs, no slow death, no staying on the cross till he rotted off. And somehow managed to do it on exactly the same day of the year that all the other dying and ressurecting pagan gods used for the same trick.

Doctor X

Have to agree with Biff and Brighid--sounds like a "Seventies Soft-Rock Band"--that too much of the passion narratives contradict what we know, have too much mythmaking to be reliable, contradict one another to prove reliable. Much of the "You're Herod's race!/Ha! You're Herod's case!" seems like later explanation.

--J.D.

Biff the unclean

That's funny, what happened with that woman taken in adultery who didn't have the first stone cast at her by he who was free from sin? No one seemed particularly concerned about Roman law in that story. When did the rules change?