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Old 01-11-2003, 04:51 PM   #11
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That's probably the right assessment. Something was always "off" about his monologues, but I never picked up on what exactly. Do you have an specific instances in mind?
Just the way he talks to the band sometimes, and how he interviews guests of varying ethnicity. When he had Dave Chapelle on last year, i noticed it. Chapelle does a lot of racial humour, but it's really quite clever most of the time, poking fun at the same ignorance that Leno loves to show off. Leno misses the point, and is for some reason more amused by the stereotypes that come up than the actual jokes. seems harmless enough by itself, but when he always steers the conversation towards race when he has an african-american guest, he does basically the same thing O'neal did. I'm sure other talk show hosts are guilty of this too, but Leno relies on widely believed and insulting racial stereotypes as the sole basis of his jokes much, much too often for my tastes.
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It is an incredibly crass joke. Racist or simply "ethnic," he should still be ashamed. Nevertheless, this is by no means a bright person we are talking about here. This is Shaquille O'Neal! Intellectually, he is one step above a tree stump.

Kazaam by itself is reason enough for Shaq to have his balls repeatedly kicked.
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Now i admit it is a very bad joke but racist? I have always attributed my lack of sensitivity to these sorts of jokes to my "sense of humor". I guess it is really tough to say whether or not it is racist unless you are the brunt. Those of you who think this is racist..do you claim to not telling any blonde, dumb man/woman jokes? and if you say it isnt the same thing, i will disagree. women experience a fair amount of prejudice in this world still, as most of you would agree. but i love a good joke, it is just that...
what do you tell a woman with two black eyes?
Nothing, ya done told her twice.
oh how about this one...
Winning an argument on these forums is like winning a race in the special olympics. You are still retarded if participating.
Now point being..
Are these jokes detrimental to those being made fun of? nah i dont believe so...
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Darthmom:

personally I don't think you could have picked a worse example of a women joke than a spousal abuse one.
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:05 PM   #15
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personally I don't think you could have picked a worse example of a women joke than a spousal abuse one.
OK, then, how about this one:

Q. What did the blind man say as he passed the fish market?

A. "Good morning, ladies.".


Here's my favorite 'religion' joke:

Q. Why did jesus die on the cross?

A. He forgot the safe word.


And here's a woman/religion joke:

Q. Why did god create women?

A. Because sheep can't cook.


These are jokes. No one would get upset about them except assholes.
 
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that is really schoolyard standard ignorance, and how an adult can honestly say and be amused by such tripe escapes me.

as an aside, i find jay leno to be subtly but disturbingly, quite often racist.
ADULT being the key word...obviously not.

and I detest Jay Leno on general principle ...I haven't generally even found him remotely funny anyway - but YMMV

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Most all jokes have some sort of stereotyping in them. It's the commonality of the subjects that allows people to recognize the humor.
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Q. What did the blind man say as he passed the fish market?

A. "Good morning, ladies.".
May I be the first to say... ZING!!

Seriously, though, I tend to make a diffrentiation. I don't think making fun of one's sex, class, race, orientation, ethnicity is in good taste, but I can tell when someone is just doing it out of humour instead of malice. That is where i draw the line - am I ignorant for stopping there? I don't think so, but I suspect many do.

In a way, I see this kind of humour as a method for confronting (coming to terms with) the fact that yes, there are people in this world who are different than I am. I've never been comfortable with the 'gloss it over' attitude.
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Anyone know if Shaq speaks ANY second language?
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Here's my favorite 'religion' joke:
I used to know some good ones...

Jesus walks into a hotel and slaps 4 nails on the counter. Then he says "can you put me up for the night"?



This one is good if you do it,
*start nibbling the air above your wrists* and ask "hey whats this"?

answer: Jesus biting his nails.

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