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BioBeing · 08-20-2003, 01:19 PM

I came up:

# 1. Secular Humanism (100%)
# 2. Unitarian Universalism (84%)
# 3. Liberal Quakers (77%)
# 4. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (76%)
# 5. Neo-Pagan (75%)
# 6. Non-theist (68%)
# 7. Reform Judaism (67%)
# 8. New Age (61%)
# 9. Mahayana Buddhism (55%)
# 10. Theravada Buddhism (53%)
# 11. New Thought (46%)
# 12. Orthodox Quaker (46%)
# 13. Scientology (46%)
# 14. Sikhism (46%)
# 15. Taoism (46%)
# 16. Bah�'� Faith (36%)
# 17. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (36%)
# 18. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (36%)
# 19. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (29%)
# 20. Eastern Orthodox (25%)
# 21. Hinduism (25%)
# 22. Islam (25%)
# 23. Jainism (25%)
# 24. Orthodox Judaism (25%)
# 25. Roman Catholic (25%)
# 26. Seventh Day Adventist (20%)
# 27. Jehovah's Witness (10%)

My problem with this type of quiz is questions (or rather, answers) like:

Only natural forces (like evolution) and no Creator or spiritual forces. Or not sure. Or not important.

I "believe" in evolution, I am sure, and it is very important. So I click on the None of the above button...

Rusting Car Bumper · 08-20-2003, 01:33 PM

There are some obvious flaws in the test.

Various answers are lumped in together that can have significant differences.

Question 1 has a choice "No God or supreme force. Or, not sure. Or, not important."

However, the three choices here bound up as one can have significant implications. There are several questions where "not sure" and "not important" is bound up with positive assertions of no god or naturalism.

Question 3 says "3. ORIGINS OF PHYSICAL UNIVERSE AND LIFE ON EARTH. Choose one" but one answer is "Only natural forces (like evolution) and no Creator or spiritual forces. Or not sure. Or not important." Well, I'm sorry. Its "Only natural forces" and it is important.

DC

Biff the unclean · 08-20-2003, 02:42 PM

Mine said I was a "Bernese Mountain Dog"
Are you sure that's the right test?

wade-w · 08-20-2003, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leah
JW's take a pleasure in the thought of torture of non believers, and I saw a resemblence to that attitute also in other posts of yours.

Afaik, JW's don't believe in Hell. So no torture, nonbelievers just cease to exist when we die.

Milton · 08-20-2003, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leah
We had a little discussion prior to my holidays, when I had just started to post on here, .... and .... .... it was your attitute, ... but on the other hand you weren't fluent enough on bible quotes, so it was just a thought.
JW's take a pleasure in the thought of torture of non believers, and I saw a resemblence to that attitute also in other posts of yours.
not to worry, what ever makes you happy

strange...

I can't recall ever claiming that I was happy that people were going to hell or anything like that.

Also, I have no idea where you get the idea that JWs like the thought of the toture of non-believers. As pointed out above, JWs don't believe in Hell. They don't even believe in the heaven of which most mainstreamers claim is where Christians go to at death. They believe we are all confined to the earthly life--no soul, either.

sodium · 08-20-2003, 10:32 PM

They have an interesting test for determining which dead philosopher you are. I'm Simone de Beauvoir, although I think they might have got more accurate results if there was a "what do you mean by free will?" choice.

http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/sele...t=Philosophers

There's also a choose your favourite metaphysician.
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/sele...?client=philos

Mine is Quine, apparently.

http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/sele...t=TJPhilosophy

and here it's Hume.

And apparently,
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/sele...PopeZypgxPolls

I should join the People's Temple. But I can't find them in the phone book

Cipher Girl · 08-20-2003, 11:09 PM

Here's mine:

1. Secular Humanism (100%)
2. Unitarian Universalism (92%)
3. Non-theist (79%)
4. Liberal Quakers (70%)
5. Theravada Buddhism (65%)
6. Neo-Pagan (59%)
7. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (57%)
8. Reform Judaism (43%)
9. New Age (42%)
10. Taoism (39%)
11. Sikhism (33%)
12. Scientology (32%)
13. New Thought (30%)
14. Orthodox Quaker (30%)
15. Mahayana Buddhism (28%)
16. Bah�'� Faith (28%)
17. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (25%)
18. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (25%)
19. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (19%)
20. Eastern Orthodox (18%)
21. Islam (18%)
22. Orthodox Judaism (18%)
23. Roman Catholic (18%)
24. Jainism (16%)
25. Seventh Day Adventist (14%)
26. Hinduism (12%)
27. Jehovah's Witness (7%)

catalyst · 08-20-2003, 11:17 PM

My philosopher is Jean-Paul Sartre .

Leah · 08-21-2003, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milton
strange...
Also, I have no idea where you get the idea that JWs like the thought of the toture of non-believers. As pointed out above, JWs don't believe in Hell. They don't even believe in the heaven of which most mainstreamers claim is where Christians go to at death. They believe we are all confined to the earthly life--no soul, either.

They believe that 144.000 will reign in heaven with Jesus, the first christians and later a selected minority of such that were born before 1914. And they believe that Armageddon will come before the last of that group has died.
Torture of non-believers prior to death: their own children, family, former JW's, the appocalypse, armageddon itself...............

Postcard73 · 08-21-2003, 11:22 AM

That's pretty fun...

1. Secular Humanism (100%)

2. Unitarian Universalism (90%)

3. Non-theist (80%)

4. Theravada Buddhism (76%)

5. Liberal Quakers (71%)

6. Neo-Pagan (61%)

7. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (53%)

8. Taoism (48%)

9. New Age (45%)

10. Mahayana Buddhism (38%)

11. Reform Judaism (35%)

12. Orthodox Quaker (33%)

13. New Thought (25%)

14. Scientology (25%)

15. Sikhism (22%)

16. Bah�'� Faith (20%)

17. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (19%)

18. Jainism (18%)

19. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (15%)

20. Hinduism (12%)

21. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (12%)

22. Seventh Day Adventist (11%)

23. Eastern Orthodox (7%)

24. Islam (7%)

25. Orthodox Judaism (7%)

26. Roman Catholic (7%)

27. Jehovah's Witness (5%)

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08-20-2003, 01:19 PM	#21
BioBeing Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 6,004	I came up: # 1. Secular Humanism (100%) # 2. Unitarian Universalism (84%) # 3. Liberal Quakers (77%) # 4. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (76%) # 5. Neo-Pagan (75%) # 6. Non-theist (68%) # 7. Reform Judaism (67%) # 8. New Age (61%) # 9. Mahayana Buddhism (55%) # 10. Theravada Buddhism (53%) # 11. New Thought (46%) # 12. Orthodox Quaker (46%) # 13. Scientology (46%) # 14. Sikhism (46%) # 15. Taoism (46%) # 16. Bah�'� Faith (36%) # 17. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (36%) # 18. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (36%) # 19. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (29%) # 20. Eastern Orthodox (25%) # 21. Hinduism (25%) # 22. Islam (25%) # 23. Jainism (25%) # 24. Orthodox Judaism (25%) # 25. Roman Catholic (25%) # 26. Seventh Day Adventist (20%) # 27. Jehovah's Witness (10%) My problem with this type of quiz is questions (or rather, answers) like: Only natural forces (like evolution) and no Creator or spiritual forces. Or not sure. Or not important. I "believe" in evolution, I am sure, and it is very important. So I click on the None of the above button...

08-20-2003, 01:33 PM	#22
Rusting Car Bumper Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: U.S. Posts: 4,171	There are some obvious flaws in the test. Various answers are lumped in together that can have significant differences. Question 1 has a choice "No God or supreme force. Or, not sure. Or, not important." However, the three choices here bound up as one can have significant implications. There are several questions where "not sure" and "not important" is bound up with positive assertions of no god or naturalism. Question 3 says "3. ORIGINS OF PHYSICAL UNIVERSE AND LIFE ON EARTH. Choose one" but one answer is "Only natural forces (like evolution) and no Creator or spiritual forces. Or not sure. Or not important." Well, I'm sorry. Its "Only natural forces" and it is important. DC

08-20-2003, 02:42 PM	#23
Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	Mine said I was a "Bernese Mountain Dog" Are you sure that's the right test?

08-20-2003, 10:32 PM	#26
sodium Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: British Columbia Posts: 1,027	They have an interesting test for determining which dead philosopher you are. I'm Simone de Beauvoir, although I think they might have got more accurate results if there was a "what do you mean by free will?" choice. http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/sele...t=Philosophers There's also a choose your favourite metaphysician. http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/sele...?client=philos Mine is Quine, apparently. http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/sele...t=TJPhilosophy and here it's Hume. And apparently, http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/sele...PopeZypgxPolls I should join the People's Temple. But I can't find them in the phone book

08-20-2003, 11:09 PM	#27
Cipher Girl Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Sunny Southern California Posts: 657	Here's mine: 1. Secular Humanism (100%) 2. Unitarian Universalism (92%) 3. Non-theist (79%) 4. Liberal Quakers (70%) 5. Theravada Buddhism (65%) 6. Neo-Pagan (59%) 7. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (57%) 8. Reform Judaism (43%) 9. New Age (42%) 10. Taoism (39%) 11. Sikhism (33%) 12. Scientology (32%) 13. New Thought (30%) 14. Orthodox Quaker (30%) 15. Mahayana Buddhism (28%) 16. Bah�'� Faith (28%) 17. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (25%) 18. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (25%) 19. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (19%) 20. Eastern Orthodox (18%) 21. Islam (18%) 22. Orthodox Judaism (18%) 23. Roman Catholic (18%) 24. Jainism (16%) 25. Seventh Day Adventist (14%) 26. Hinduism (12%) 27. Jehovah's Witness (7%)

08-20-2003, 11:17 PM	#28
catalyst Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 6,158	My philosopher is Jean-Paul Sartre .

08-21-2003, 11:22 AM	#30
Postcard73 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Roanoke, VA. Posts: 2,198	That's pretty fun... 1. Secular Humanism (100%) 2. Unitarian Universalism (90%) 3. Non-theist (80%) 4. Theravada Buddhism (76%) 5. Liberal Quakers (71%) 6. Neo-Pagan (61%) 7. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (53%) 8. Taoism (48%) 9. New Age (45%) 10. Mahayana Buddhism (38%) 11. Reform Judaism (35%) 12. Orthodox Quaker (33%) 13. New Thought (25%) 14. Scientology (25%) 15. Sikhism (22%) 16. Bah�'� Faith (20%) 17. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (19%) 18. Jainism (18%) 19. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (15%) 20. Hinduism (12%) 21. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (12%) 22. Seventh Day Adventist (11%) 23. Eastern Orthodox (7%) 24. Islam (7%) 25. Orthodox Judaism (7%) 26. Roman Catholic (7%) 27. Jehovah's Witness (5%)

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