scigirl

Hey Matt,

If God hates masturbation and gay sex and that sort of stuff, why did he make these things so pervasive in the animal kingdom?

Consider this hypothetical scenario. Suppose I was a painter. Then suppose I told you, Matt, that I hated looking at paintings of naked people because I thought it was wrong to paint such things. But then. . . I went and painted naked people. Would you think that was strange?

Well, your God (if he exists, which of course I doubt) is strange. He says masturbation is an abomination to him. Yet he makes a species of primate (the bonobo for sure, probably others) that masturbate all the time. Why???

scigirl

nermal

Just curious, and pardon my ignorance in advance, but where exactly in the bible does it say "no sex before marriage"?
Can someone give me a clear passage, not some interpretation of "lasciviousness" or such?

Ed

Eagel4Jesus

Sex before marriage would be adultery, there are many verses in both the OT and NT which involve adultery...

Well, if you want to get technical, masturbation is not mentioned in the Bible as a sin, however, most people look at pornography when masturbating, and when you look at pornography you lust and commit adultery with your mind, which is the sin. So if you masturbated without thinking about someone or something...just doing it for the release, I do not believe that is a sin...

Matt

scigirl

Oh that's good to know. I'll just read the Bible the next time I'm masturbating so God won't be offended! I'll start with Song of songs.

scigirl

hezekiah jones

Originally posted by scigirl
... the bonobo ...

And how 'bout that masturbating bear?

Whoa. Eh? Hellfire.

Opera Nut

ANd what happened to all those gay dogs, deer, other mammals, etc. that hump other males? How did they get that way? Did they read THE ADVOCATE? Did they watch gay porn? Did they live in a gay neighborhood next to a leather bar? Did they march in a Gay Pride Parade? Huh?

Darwin26

i guess i read the "other" book where it says i get bonus bonus points for masturbating multiple times aday .... if feels sooooo sooooo soooooooo like HEAVEN ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah... i better re-read that ... NOT

You religious folks live in hell all day everyday ... makes me wonder ... you like to stretch this "moral score keeper" dretck...all worried 'bout going to hell for spilling Cod's seed (ooops) How it decays your senses ... but stretch this, Bable buckO... while you're so all worried that your heavenly insurance policy is being eclipsed... your government leaders (ie you) are selling land mines to many nations around the world ... so which is your mythical omnipotence more concerned about...you jacking off or your self concern for getting into heaven ...free of guilt...?

Anyway here's a lil URL Matt, that can help you with your wacking off dilemma !
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?...5&pagenumber=1

Oh Oh here's a question: if my vas defrens has been cut can i do it guilt free ...i'm just shooting blanks ...ya think when jesis comes back he'll dock me for that?

Speakin of priests living in a revolving door of absolution ...how bout that killer BISHOP in Arizona....can you believe (pun) Oppps, Errrrr uhh that was a dog or a rock crashing through my windshild ... so when it bounced off i didn't stop ... cause i knew i really killed a pedstrian and if i can get to a confessional in time i will be guilt free ha ha ha .... but the long arm of the law nailed that silly Bishop

oh for what it's worth a xian isa xian isa xian

Opera Nut

Bishop was just practicing a drive by extreme unction.

You can see the mugshot and incident report at
the Smoking Gun.com

nermal

I've looked up the definition of adultery. It's sex with someone else's spouse, not premarital sex.
As for masterbation, doesn't the bible say somewhere:
"better to spill your seed into the belly of a whore than to spill it on the ground"?
Just make sure you catch the ejaculate before it hits the floor, I guess.

Ed

Sol

FYI - Confession is not supposed to be used for the purpose of serving as "loop-hole". As an ex-Catholic raised in the Roman Catholic church, I can assure you your supposition is way off base.

One submits themselves to the process of confession, because they commit what they consider to be a sin, they must have feelings of guilt and remorse. The purpose is to repent, learn from and ammend behavior so that one can attain a higher state of personal grace.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with masturbating, but that is probably one of the smallest reasons I ultimately rejected the church, my faith and all religion. Hypocrisy would be one of the larger reasons.