Family Man

I realize this is a digression, so I don't expect to expound on this on this thread at any rate, but if anyone would like to see examples of Radoth's dishonesty check out this thread:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=4

where he twists my arguments so hard one could hardly recognize them anymore. (Note: in the end, Radoth didn't respond to my rejoiners, probably because he couldn't).

<Family Man smiles, sits back, and waits for Radoth to call him a grudgemeister again>

Radorth

Oops, wrong button.

Well if you don't know, how can you say I am the "worst witness" then? Your assertion is therefore based on speculation and unproven assumptions. I know, you take my word I'm a Christian, then immediately accuse me of being disingenuous on every other subject.

It is skeptics who assert Hitler was a Christian, so I'm calling their bluff and asking them to explain themselves if any agree with you that I am the "worst witness." We note you are dancing furiously around the question of whether you agree that Hitler was a Christian. Are you seriously claiming you never saw a worse person than I who claimed to be a Christian, and who you took at their word as you assert?

And you will studiously avoid the germaine question about me and Paul, or dance another jig, I'm sure.

(Another golden opportunity to prove me wrong Fenton, since I can think of two or three differences myself).

Rad

Family Man

Personally, I agree with Radoth that Hitler was a Christian and that Radoth is a better witness for Christ than Hitler was.

But only just.

Radorth

Heh.

Really? Name some major similarities other than our mutual willingness to kill spiders known to be atheists.

It's Grudgemeister # 2, making one of his hit and run statements with nothing to back it up.

Nice work. I was about to downgrade you to # 3.

Rad

Yellum Notnef

Why are you dragging Paul into this? You also at one point asked if you are a worse witness than Jesus himself. How could Jesus witness religious faith in himself?

But lets get to Paul since this is brutally simple. Did Paul act like a Jerk when he went around talking to people about Jesus? Are Pauls letters (at least the ones believed to be his) full of put downs,wise cracks,evasion,and flat out dishonesty?

Did Paul travel around from town to town meeeting unbelievers because he got a kick out of laughing at the flawed arguments of skeptics?

I rest my case.

Dr Rick

It happens every time Radorth posts here.

Rick

Yellum Notnef

Radorth,
This is a perfect example of your bullshit. You take the following quote that came from someone else:
And then use it to respond to me:

The quote you`re responding to here is NOT mine. Nice trick (you do this frequently),but I`m not responding to you if you can`t even quote something that *I* said. And you talk about ME misquoting YOU? Thats a laugh that you still havent been able to prove.

Yellum Notnef

You`re willing to kill us?

Family Man

Oh, goody, I would hate to be downgraded. But I see that you still have troubles honestly characterizing what people you don't like say. I didn't say you had any similiarities other than being a witness for Christ, and you brought that up yourself. I just said you were barely a better witness than Hitler. (Though why you would choose to compare yourself to Hitler, I have no idea.)



BTW: since you seem to lack humor, I suppose I should explain to you the "barely better than Hitler" statement is a joke. Not that that makes you a wonderful witness for Jesus. On the contrary, your rudeness, your incoherency, your dishonest misrepresentations of the arguments of others, your condescension, your inconsistencies all speak of someone who is a terrible witness.

Hell, this "I'm a better witness than Hitler" ought to convince anyone, regardless of their position on God, to conclude you've lost your mind.

MrDarwin

Well, that's exactly what I was asking, I thought. What, besides somebody's self-identification, should I use to judge whether or not they are a Christian? And now to go from the general to the personal: if I'm not to just take your word for it, Radorth, that you are a Christian, what behavior of yours do I have to judge your claim against?