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Old 02-19-2003, 11:39 AM   #21
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Those are all reasons to like liberals. What is it about loving our freedom that the Right finds so offensive? I will never understand these people.
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Old 02-19-2003, 12:58 PM   #22
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I was a bit astounded they have a WHOLE COURSE dedicated to Lesbian Studies at the university I'm going to. Talk about special interest curriculum. How can they run these classes if they're so obviously vacant? I just don't get how you could fill up an entire course with material about lesbians in general. This PC stuff is a bit much.
This isn't PC, its capitalism. These universities don't offer these classes because anyone is pressuring them to. They offer these classes because they know that people will pay to take them. It is as simple as that.
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Old 02-19-2003, 05:23 PM   #23
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I am above left and right.
I like how you said that and will use it when nosey strangers ask me my political opinions from now on.

Most people I know do not consider themselves Republican or Democrat - they don't consider themselves swing voters either -just people who are not well represented by either side.

Savage is a hack who found a cushy, well paying gig. Plain and simple. Any half-brain twit can learn the right wing's black and white answers to everything except the liberal policies of their own party. That requires a more creative spin but a spin nonetheless.

Not to mention they also all get help from the same right wing think tanks that coach them on what to say through the more difficult political embarrassments/issues.
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Old 02-19-2003, 06:05 PM   #24
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Grow up, children (I'm 49 year old). The likes of Limbaugh and Savage are just the latest generation of Father Coughlin and Walter Winchell and such. Wasted electricity that does not have as much influence on general public opinion as one might assume. Rants and rave over the airwaves do not indicate a true sample of opinion, do not persuade, and do not influence the rest of us. Demogogues have and always will dominate the media (what do you make of those horrible one-on-ones with Barbara Walters?) and one must merely ignore the crap. There is no use in wringing hands about what others may do...
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Caldonia, if they didn't use their position as a broadcaster to influence all the low IQ types who still believe everything they hear I might agree. You're fortunate to live where few people take these buffoons seriously.

You also probably don�t have them on the radio 16-20 hours a day, sometimes competing against each other on different stations without an opposing voice from any camp to be heard.

Many here actually believe that global warming is good because it will do away with seasons and allow year round farming in many areas. This is the warped twist you get from guys like Savage.
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Old 02-20-2003, 05:32 PM   #26
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Hubble Head,

I'll concede that my view of the matter is colored by where I live, which is the quite liberal thinking Bay Area. Michael Savage is based at a local station here and has a certain following because he goes "against type." His conservatism is almost comedic it is so out of place (here).

Somehow I always thought that Dallas might be a more moderate part of Texas in religion and politics but from what you report that is not so. I grew up in a very conservative city in Michigan so I have some idea what that is like.
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The descriptions of multiculturalism here are simple characatures. I'm sure there are some pro-multiculturalists wh do hate America, but that isn't what the substance of the trend is about. Those advancing an appreciation for other cultures and a political orientation making room for them are necessarily committed to a critique of mainstream culture insofar it acts to subvert altenative cultural perspectives and assimilate the members of such groups. Additionally, the fact is that many of the cultural orders studied in multicultural circles have historically been oppressed by those claiming to advocate American values. If someone were to study Asian-American populations, they would necessarily have to come to grips with the Chinese Exclusion Act and the internment camps of WWII. Condemning such policies doesn't amount to hating America unless you assume America is incapable of changing them. The same cold be said of African-American issues (slavery, lynchings, segregation, debt peonage, etc.) Native American issues (broken treaties, general allotment, termination, deliberate subversion of family bonds, and lets not forget the occassional outright genocide, etc.), to study homosexual issues one would have to come to grips with various homophobic policies and attitudes. The oppresive policies of the American government, and the oppresssive attitudes of the American public are all facts relevant to the histories of these cultures, and it is perfectly fair to call attention to them. Some in multicultural circles are more self-indulgent than others, but to characterize the entire movement as teaching kids to hate America is a deliberate over-simplification. There is a point at which such tactics are indistinguishable from lies.
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Old 02-24-2003, 07:46 PM   #28
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Wonderful post gunnaheave. Like the name too.

Apparently, a good ole moral dichotomy, a simple generalization, repeated enough to even believe in it yourself, is the soup du jour of those who wish to promote and or maintain a sheep and shepherd populace.
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