Jolimont

Hey, being afraid of terrorist hijackings, maybe I should bring a pig with me on planes!

Amen-Moses

Why not just make eating Pork compulsory (on planes or elsewhere) and shoot anyone who refuses?

That way you can get rid of vegans as well as muslims, two birds with one stone.

Amen-Moses

Biff the unclean

That would be Abdul ben Jabar and his wife Rosemary. I wouldn't worry about them too much because they are in their 80's.

The rest already hate us.

enemigo

Snopes has some information on this practice:

<a href="http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm" target="_blank">http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm</a>

from one of the articles on the above website, concerning rumors of Israelis attempting this as a deterrent:


richard

I ate Pascal's Wafer

I would normally agree, but it seems that they will have this prejudice against us anyway, no matter that our laws protect the Muslims in our country, and no matter that we have not persecuted Muslims because of religious belief. It's basically a case of damned if we do, and damned if we don't. They will have these prejudices regardless of what we do, so we might as well exploit their religion to the best of our advantage.

However, as Richard pointed out, it seems that some Muslims do not think the soul will become unclean if buried with pigs, and I think Mortal Wombat mentioned that if we started burying terrorists with pigs, then some groups would say that the soul of a martyr is clean anyway. In this respect I would have to agree that this would be a bad idea overall. It wouldn't have the desired effect, and it would remove any doubt they have that we are against Islam.

-Nick

Dark Jedi

I was going to put it this way:

&lt;Carlin Voice&gt; Special Dispensation&lt;/Carlin Voice&gt;

Dark Jedi

I seriously considered making and selling a pig urine based pepper spray to market to the military/police forces.

Incapacitate them while taking away their fearlessness....

simian

What would the effect be if the US government enforced a Christian burial service for all dead in the US. It could be justified on the grounds that all those who are "un-American" are non-Christian, so would not want to be desecrated by a Christian burial. This would include atheists. If you haven't noticed, Muslims seem to have more support and understanding from the US populace than atheists. How would this affect you? Would it change any of the Church/State stances you take? Or would it merely annoy you more?

It is not a matter of "don't do anything to make them angry", but treating everybody with some human decency. Not to mention the fact that not all Muslims hate the US - but if we start being seen as arbitrarily desecrating bodies, the US becomes suspect. In case you haven't noticed, the US government is not exactly forth-coming on evidence when it makes accusations. So, the US desecrates a body, says it has indisputable evidence that the person was about to blow up a building, refuses to present the evidence, responding with "you will just have to trust us." Not exactly a good way of defending actions. Or, to put it bluntly, would it be doing more harm than good.

Simian

thebeave

The title of my thread is wrong and misleading. My idea was to threaten the terrorists with burial with pigs, not to actually do it. Of course it would be a waste of our time and effort (and most of all, porkchops...yummy ) to actually do it. In addition, due to Geneva Convention rules, etc. we just can't execute them at will (though maybe they don't know that). The plan is kinda like telling a little kid that he will burn in hell for eternity if he doesn't eat all his vegetables. A sufficiently brainwashed, fundy kid might actually believe it and behave accordingly. And these terrorists are seriously brainwashed, Islam fundies, as you know.

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