dk

The point is you're one hard hearted women that hasn't given the issue much thought.

Mageth

The point is, I reckon, that I'm a man.

And you have no idea how much thought I've put in to this, or any other issue.

dk

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were a lesbian in a man's body.

Mageth

Perhaps I am; I do prefer women, after all.

pug846

dk said:

dk, the 1950s called, they want their white hoods and oppressive social policies back.

It’s sad that 40-50 years from now when people see little difference between the racial bigots in the early 20th century and the sexual orientation bigots of the late 20th century you won’t be around to say anything. Just like we have assholes like Trent Lott in powerful positions saying he was wrong about social equality for African-Americans, we’ll have a generation of conservative politicians saying they never really had any problems with homosexuals.

dk

Its sad that sociologists tossed the Moynihan Report in the trash as more "blame the victim" rheteric. Maybe if they would have thought with their heads instead of their hearts a whole generations could have been saved from the ravages of a corrupt welfare system. Maybe they could have reformed Welfare by 1970 instead of 1995. Thirty years later, all the king's men and all the king's horses can't put humpty dumpty together again.

BrotherMan

Marriage does nothing of the sort.



What people want and what people get aren't always the same thing. It's exactly the attitude described above that cause teen suicide rates to increase for both female and male adolescents. Suicide is no less harmful than HIV. At least with a disease, there's the possibility of a cure. Suicide is a one way trip.



I'll give you a chance to explain this in greater detail. What do you mean, exactly, by 'mess with'?



What exactly is the media doing to the children? What are judges doing to children?

If you want to start down the road of trying to expain whom it is okay to hate (make no mistake, that is at the heart of this), feel free. Just don't be surprised by the responses you get.



So being gay automatically equals pornography? Did it break your leg making that leap?

Define deviant.

I state that a loving, sexual relationship between any two consenting adults is normal for them.

And when parents stick their heads in the sand, who do they blaim when their children wind up raped, addicted or pregnant? They may wonder where they went wrong, but they don't really blaim themselves. Instead, we have people lashing out at the media and gay agendas for teaching their children how to be deviant.



For every one gay promiscuous element in the market driven culture you'll find at least 100 straight promiscuous elements.



Utterly unlike the straight community, which burns brightly - as the sun - with scandal tragedy and violence.



Au contraire. That is exactly what you've just stated.



No, you're appealing to the bigotted with your "keep the gays in the closet" rhetoric. The public square needs to understand that being gay isn't the greatest evil to befall mankind.



What the heck is the freedom of youth? Do you mean 'protect the innocence of youth'?

And just where do you see anyone (here) proposing otherwise?

dk

If you've got to misquote me to get into the debate, you've already lost. Sorry pug.

lisarea

dk, I believe you meant to address this to me.

So allow me to answer your questions:

1) Yes. That's exactly what I meant. It's very insightful of you to pick up on that. In fact, I was just wondering how the researchers at the CDC and the like manage to do their jobs without dissolving into fits of helpless laughter.
2) Ditto. Plus, what the hell are you talking about?
3) This time, just "What the hell are you talking about?"

You're making a lot of sweeping pronouncements without backing them up at all.

For one, pedophiles and homosexuals are completely different things. If you don't have a dictionary available at home, you can look these terms up at:

http://www.onelook.com

This will allow you to compare and contrast the two terms. While you're at it, look up heterosexuality as well.

Once you've done this, please come back and explain the relationships among these three terms.


I do not want my sons, daughters, or students socialized by those with a hateful, ignorant agenda.

I am a parent, and the only reason I would have wanted my child not to be gay is because I wouldn't have wanted him to have to deal with mean spirited, intolerant people.

I absolutely DO want the gay 'lifestyle' normalized by the media. I absolutely do NOT want my child socialized by people with hateful and intolerant agendas.

Being exposed to homosexuality does not turn you gay. (For some reason, I think it is probably necessary to explain that when I say 'exposed to homosexuality,' I'm not talking about child rape or pornography, just normal, non-sexual socialization.)

Being exposed to all different types of people turns you understanding, tolerant, and compassionate.

BrotherMan

Damn, most of my post in half the words.

Pedant alert!



Despite years of indoctrination, to compare and contrast is erroneous. It is redundant to use both words. By comparing or contrasting words, sentences or ideas one will automatically see how they are similar or even if they are similar at all.

Okay, done now.