graden1

Six extra dimensions which are too small to see.

A few extra kinds of quarks we don't really need.

Several hundred thousand species of redundant beetles.

Hey, wait a minute....

jdawg2

heh, that is sort of my position on the issue. It's just funny to me that some people are so quick to jump to "design!" when they see something complex, yet the actual "design" is pretty crappy by our standards. I saw something where two brothers born that share the same brain, do people actually think some conscious "loving" being designed it?

I mean, even if this planet was designed for us, why put us on a planet with 66% water...most of which we can't do anything with without cheating (technology, lol)

WWSD

Don't forget our friends the neutrinos and thier flavor switching ways!

Ojuice5001

You know what makes the situation worse? Knowing that we have beaten the system only temporarily. The development of agriculture and medicine produced a great increase in life expectancy, but in the long run the laws of population will cause humans to have a survival rate just as low as before agriculture. This has already happened in many parts of the world, and it will happen to the industrial nations too. The only escape is continual expansion: We must first exploit the resources of the sea, and then those of outer space. And the powers that be, human and divine, don't seem to be amenable to that. I won't lie to you; it takes faith to believe that the world is controlled by the gods. That's one reason I find many finite deities easier to swallow than one omnipotent one.

WWSD

Like I said, why design an adaptable immune system just to design an adaptable parasite that can easily evade it?

Why design a crappy knee? Why design flimsy ankles?

Why design smallpox, HIV, the Spanish flu, dengue, any other nasty pathogen you care to name?

Although I suppose you could argue that "Free Will" hass omething to do with all of that. But I just don't buy it.

WWSD

This reminds me of RNA viruses.
With increasaing population densities, the mutation rate of RNA viruses, thier fast generation times, and the amount of virus produced by one individual, we are ripe for a large, unhappy pandemic like the 1918 Spanish flu.

Scary...

Thor Q. Mada

As an engineer, I can only say that if we are the fruit of "intelligent design", then I am really worried.
Which all knowing designer would design a body of which some parts have a 200 years design life and others max 120. Even Henry Ford new better.
And how about the heart of a human male??
Clearly underdesigned.
The capacity of this pump is only enough to feed one consumer at the same time!! Its either the brain or the reproductive organ, but not the two together!! Unbelievably stupid!!

liquid

Strange no-one has directly picked up on an important point - 'creator' ID theories are inherently unscientific and unfalsifiable even before you get to the actual evidence or the fact that apparent 'design' is explained by evolution in any case.

Why? Simply because in either scenario, there is no experimental control available (and of course, we all know that is a first step in valid experimentation).

For instance, in a universe with no creator, there is no created design to be found in the first place.

In a created universe, all is designed, and there is no 'non-design' in existance as a control or reference. So design still cannot be distinguished.

Hans

It looks exactly like the one you see!

Autonemesis

ID proponents are just posing moderately more clever questions than "Did you stop beating your wife?"

That's it, nothing more to say.