keyser_soze

BTW, to get the FULL picture, now I do networking, have been unfaithful to my wife once, never stole anything in my life, but have a moral flexibility when it comes to murder, dependant on the victim in question. I don't know what my sign is, but I was born in september, I drive a mercedes, my wife drives a POS windstar, and I own my home. I have debt on two credit cards....Can't think of anything else. Oh yeah, I welcome any and all comers when it comes to my beliefs, be they moral or faith based...

keyser_soze

Want to take a wild guess why most social workers burn out in less than 3 years? Go ahead, take a guess...I'll bet you know. You DO know don't you? I have a suspicion that you might...maybe not understand it, but you know.

Pat Kelly

keyser_soze - Sorry I doubted your credentials. Most of the people I have known in your field always seemed to retain a professional distance that kept them from becoming emotionally involved with their clients. You sound anything but emotionally detached.

I agree 100% that there are some extremely dysfunctional families out there with all types of abuse inflicted upon children of all ages. But all the statistics I have ever seen show sex to be a comparatively minor problem when compared to things like poverty, alcohol, drugs, physical assault and neglect. To read your post one might get the impression that the biggest problem kids fact today is sexual predators which could not be further from the truth.

keyser_soze

Indeed, violently, that is why I no longer work in social work. I could no longer be trusted to just restrain perps. And I've never been one to distance myself from anything, and I don't care who knows what about me.

Well, sorry, but my experience is FAR from the same. I saw statistics a plenty in my work, but mostly just scared little kids. And no it's not the biggest problem, but it's the one that's easiest to solve, simply insure that perps don't break the law again. Now, personally, I have one way in mind to insure it, but not everyone seems to agree with me, they are often squeamish, and favor a higher moral plane, but I'm a simple man.

keyser_soze

Note to self, stop getting pulled in by these yahoos....


[mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra][mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra][mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra][mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra]
[mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra][mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra]
[mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra][mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra]
[mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra][mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra]
[mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra][mantra]it's all good, you work with computers and not people now...relax[/mantra]

Pat Kelly

Well why stop with the “perps”? You could apply your philosophy to anyone who breaches any type of law and it would still make just about as much sense.

I am sorry to hear you have been so tainted by the system and more or less given up on it. At the same time I think I understand exactly where you are coming from though I most certainly do not agree with your apparent conclusions.

keyser_soze

Well, most would not apply my particular view on it or any other offense. Personally, I think abuse of children is one of the more reprehensible crimes, and deserves a commensurate punishment. The SEXUAL abuse of a child only escalates that punishment in my view. And anyone who had to wade through the case files, and the children I did would also be tainted. But they would at least know reality when it bit them on the ass. I've SEEN what really happens out there, and I've been to houses where little girls and boys were so ripped up that you had to help hold down the POLICEMAN that follows you. I've seen the same look in the cop's eyes, when we both had to decide whether or not to give in to our most primitive urge to mete out punishment for the crime. I've seen children who won't even respond to anyone around them, sitting and rocking back and forth, damaged--possibly for the rest of their lives by what happened to them. How the fuck do you get "happy" out of that? All I get is a red haze and the urge to hurt someone really bad. I fail to follow how you seem to find it a victimless crime. Sure, I've been in nasty houses where the filth would make you throw up, and kids that are malnourished...But guess what? Feed them for three months and they'll be happy again. But those little molested kids are fucked up forever. There isn't a few meals that's going to fix what's wrong with them. You aren't going to feed away a little girl or boy's night terrors, or their embarrassment over a natural thing like their own bodies that escalates until they are basically afraid to have friends and will have troubled relationships for the duration.

keyser_soze

Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to go have a cup of tea, and try to get rid of the shakes, as our discussion, and the memories it's recalled have gotten me most unfriendly and foul tempered.

Pat Kelly

And I am going to bed. I will reply to your last post tomorrow if I get the chance. Enjoy the tea and lay off the violence stuff. It does not look good on you.

keyser_soze

I find that I often don't care what other's think of me, as long as I am true to my personal convictions, and treat other's well...that I don't mind if my opinions offend.