FoE

Why do people have such a hard time understanding that? Meeting girls is exactly as easy as meeting guys. Unless you're a total and complete loner you probably already have a few friends of both sexes. If people are having a hard time meeting and talking to women perhaps they should stop approaching them with ulterior motives.

Anachronix

There have been three women in my life that I have been genuinely interested in. I made it plainly obvious that I was interested, but kept it as low-key as possible. It turns out I'm 'That Guy'.

For those of you unaware, 'That Guy' is the one who always ends up receiving the line that completely kills any chance of a romantic relationship:

"You're so cool, I feel like I could talk to you about anything..."

As soon as you hear that, you should just give up any dreams of having anything more than a friendship with the girl. She's put you in the 'Friend' basket. You will never migrate to the 'Potential Boyfriend' basket.

Buddrow_Wilson

No, that's not necessarily so. Most of my relationships have started out similarly. Either way, just don't worry, live your life. You may be surprised at the outcome.

Bad Kitty

??!?

Who are these women friends who say you're unattractive??? I went and checked out your photo and you are a very cute boy. Nice eyes, interesting face... do you really think you're so unattractive? I certainly don't think so, and I doubt other women do as well. And as for "Hot or Not", I wouldn't give that site too much credance. It's a crock.

About the OP -- if you're one of these fellas who has difficulty "chatting up" the girls, hang in there. Not every women wants to date Mr. Smooth Line-Tossin Over-Confident Playa. I sure didn't. I always wished the shy, nice guys would talk to me, but they were too shy to hit on a complete stranger in a club or at the gym (duh). But I'm attracted to smart, goofy, somewhat geeky guys. NICE guys.

While I didn't have a problem meeting guys in the typical places, I wasn't meeting the type of guy I liked. So I went online and I asked out a guy who had an interesting profile with interest very similar to my own (with the exception of being outgoing). He even said in his profile "I tend to be shy and reserved until I really get to know someone well". That was fine with me. One year later I married that shy guy (just last weekend in fact). He's PERFECT!

Michelle

tronvillain

Hey, don't knock hotornot, they gave me a good rating! *chuckle* Anyway, I always had trouble with women, but then I was a nice guy. Happily, I have managed to shed most of that, and while I do not attempt to "chat up" women, I have gotten pretty good at meeting them. Of course, I suspect that losing thirty pounds has probably been helping my performance in that area a little.

Anson

Hmm, that's what my ex told me. I think she believed it too. But in the end I found out she didn't really want that. She wanted Mr "I know you want me because I'm so cool".

I suspect that ultimately that's what most, if not all women prefer. Even if they do have passing attractions to the humble type.

Anson

You know what I was told by my ex as she was dumping me? "You're the nicest guy I've ever met."

No, I'm not kidding.

fromtheright

Embarrassingly, I'm with you. I've always been too shy to talk to girls, but now that I'm an old married guy, I don't guess it's a big deal.

Since it means now I'm not getting laid anyway.

Anson

fromtheright

Yeah, but more than .