yguy

No there isn't, Doc. From your perspective, you may rest assured that I am utterly hopeless.

Jet Grind

Do you guys need to be hit on the head with a hammer? Yguy is a troll! So because of this (and the fact that the mods seem to be unwilling to ban him) I'm putting this up as a sort of "don't feed the troll" sign.

STOP REPLYING TO YGUY'S REDICULOUS THREADS!

Calzaer

Oh, he's not a troll... he's just allergic to actually making arguments in such a way that other people can understand him.

Nowhere357

"allergic to actually making arguments" is very well put. In my case, and I suspect many other's, the problem is not his views, it's his debating "style": a burst of highly debateable assertions, followed by enigmatic responses and avoidance of questions and points in such a way that he can carry his misconceptions and misrepresentations from thread to thread.

I'm sure it's mere coincidence that this style is often used by fundamentalists, and that yguy's views often mirror fundamentalism. And that these tactics are bread and butter to a fundy.

Vorkosigan

I've never heard of an advocate of pedophilia who did not think chocolate ice cream was delicious.

I've never heard of an advocate of pedophilia who did not think that the US was a good place to live.

I've never heard of an advocate of pedophilia who did not think that people should stop at red lights.....

See? You can rope together as many non-sequiturs as you like, but you still won't have an argument.

And given the sex abuse that runs in conservative religious entities, there must be many pedophiliacs who are anti-gay rights. Take the entire Catholic Church, for example, which is profoundly anti-gay, and profoundly pedophiliac.

Vorkosigan

Treacle Worshipper

Originally posted by yguy

Then I suggest you encourage your friends to speak up as you have when the subject comes up.

IRL, my friends (gay & straight) can, would & do. Here, I have no influence on what anyone wishes to say.

No. You asked if I was satisfied with your expression of disgust at pedophilia, and I said yes. Did you miss that?

Not at all, I was responding to your comment that you were "not sure why <I> care" with some reasons why I care very much.

TW

Dr Rick

The point has been made before, but it's worth repeating.

Certain pious and prejudice posters serve a very useful purpose here on the IIDB fora; their buffoonery, bigotry and irrationality are an excellent and easy foil that help us get our point across as well as illustrating what is so wrong with the fuzzy thinking that is the hallmark of such individuals.

yguy

All you are doing here is taking statements of mine out of context, putting them in a jar and shaking them up, and then whining when the jumbled mess that you've made of my position doesn't make sense.

If the RCC is profoundly pedophiliac, the homosexual rights movement is even more so. The only difference is that, not having a visible center to target as the RCC does, individual groups within the movement have plausible deniability.

Dr Rick

...we should distribute vertigo medications for those that follow yguy's posts:

No, he's pointing-out more fallacies in your argument, that of cum hoc ergo propter hoc in which you assert that two phenomena that putatively occur together (pedophilia and homosexuality) must be causally related, and subverted support, because there is no evidence that the two are even related (most pedophiles are not homosexuals).

Your position is made out to be a jumbled mess because it is a jumbled mess.

and

The only real consistency in yguy's rationalizations is that he consistently contradicts himself.

Nowhere357

Iow, you see that your position is based on a logical fallacy, but you just. don't. care.