Me and Me

Their are many unanswered and strange things going on with what happened on sept 11 and the so called investigation.

First of all, under F.A.A. normal procedure, once a plane is off course or loses radio contact, the FAA can order a millitary plane to check things out. Yet this did not happen on sept 11, alot of time went by without doing anything. Why do you think this was?

seanie

I don't know your rules but just because you could order up a military plane doesn't necessarily mean you would. Not right away.

Pre 9/11 your first reaction to a plane dissapearing off radar or losing radio contact is that there's been a malfunction or that it's crashed. In which case you're probably gonna get confirmation pretty soon one way or another. A military jet isn't of much use in that situation.

And when you're not getting reports of a plane down or it's still on your radar but not in contact you're confused. What the fuck's going on? You'll get around to asking for a jet but I wouldn't of thought you'd do it immediately. I'm not suprised they're might have been a bit of a delay.

Me and Me

The planes are all hijacked between 7:45 and 8:10 am eastern time. This is an unprecedented event yet the president isn't notified of it. The president is on his way to an elementary school

8:15 when it is apparent that something is very wrong, the president is still not notified.

Keep in mind that the skys are moderated by the FAA and the U.S. airforce at all times.

8:45 The first plane crashes into the first tower. Four planes hijacked simultaneously and one has crashed into one of the best known twin towers in the world, and the president still isn't notified what is going on.

9:03 the second flight crashes into the second tower, at 9:05 Andrew Card, the presidential chief of staff, whispers to the president what has just happened. He doesn't cancel the event he just keeps reading to kids. While flight 77 makes an unscheduled turn over Ohio and heads toward Washingtion D.C.

Has the President or anyone instructed the Air Force to scramble to the sky to check things out? NO

25 minutes later he decides to tell the public what they already know, that twin towers have been hit by Hijacked planes. The president nor anyone else gives ANY orders for ANY millitary aircraft to scramble to the skies.

While he is making his announcement Flight 77 is still ten minutes away from it's target, the Pentagon. Is anyone evacuated from any federal buildings? NO Let alone the Pentagon.

(I remember during the Oklahoma City bombing, My mother who worked in a federal building in Dallas TX was told to leave the building for precautionary measures.)

At 9:35 am, flight 77 makes another U turn and flies past the White House no fly zone, being on radar.

The pilot who we are told learned to fly at a florida puddle jumper school conducts a well controlled downward spiral descending 7,000 feet in just a little over 2 minutes and gets the plane so low that it clips the electrical power wires across the street, and flies it with pinpoint accuracy into the side of the pentagon building.

Shadowy Man

Yeah, to me this is the interesting part. I saw a web page that showed the path of the airplane that hit the Pentagon by the trail of downed streetlights. The pilot managed to maintain an accurate flight path while being around 20 feet off the ground!

Dibble Helix

In the UK there is a widely held (conspiracy) theory that the 4th aeroplane was actally shot down by the USAF. Does anyone in the US believe this? Or is it just us untrusting Brits!

Zar

This view is not widely held, but it is entertained by some.

The fact is, many of the stories of 9/11 do not clearly wash and our government has filibustered attempts by the citizens to confirm or deny anything that happened. No U.S. officials that I can recall were reprimanded, fired, or otherwise demoted. Mostly, a lot of people got promotions after 9/11. And what has transpired after 9/11 is too damn convenient for certain interests and so draconian, many are rightly worried.

This all smells like rotting fish to a lot of people, but the bottom line is, like many events in U.S. history it is riddled with uncertainty and may remain so, to the great consternation of skeptics. There is a lot of evidence nipping at the edges of this, but there just doesn't seem to be a smoking gun that could convince everyone but the most dedicated deniers, who of course will never be convinced of anything.

Shadowy Man

From what I read and heard on television interviews is that there were military jets on the way towards that plane and I believe they were given permission to shoot it down if necessary, but the plane went down before the jets got there. That's what officials said, and it was confirmed by some air traffic controllers who were watching the radar screens.

Craig

Seeing as how nothing like this had ever happened in US history why would scrambling fighters be the first response? What happened was the last thing on anyone's mind I'm sure, they no doubt thought the planes crashed or had some malfunction. Not only that, jets aren't flying at the speed of light- it does take a few minutes to take off and find the plane. Had they been launched right when they lost contact they still may not have been able to do anything about it.

It's very easy to sit back with your conspiracy theories 1.5 years later and pick out facts here and there that support it, but that doesn't make it right.

As for flight 77, the passengers pretty clearly took care of that one. There are tapes and phone calls to that indicate that they did.

lpetrich

I call what happened that day

The Kamikaze Hijackings

in honor of those who had tried to crash their airplanes into American structures towards the end of WWII. It's a pity that that name has not really caught on, since to me, it seems rather descriptive.

The more formal name of the kamikaze squadrons was the "Special Attack Forces" -- I wonder if anyone in the Japanese press called those kamikaze hijackings the "Special-Attack Hijackings".

Zar

Craig,

I think the argument of skeptics is that scrambling the jets was supposed to be automatic, established procedure, not something someone makes up on the spot to do if they're on their toes that morning. These things are long-established procedures that are regularly drilled. It should have been a reflex action.

If I'm not mistaken, they have scrambled jets before for much lesser things, so this is nothing new at all.