JamesKrieger

Translation: yguy's argument is so illogical, that he can't put it into a syllogism format that even remotely makes sense

JamesKrieger

At first, it was "homosexuals in general."

Now, it's "some homosexuals".

Anybody want to place bets that pretty soon yguy will be saying, "Well, there are a couple homosexuals beholden to those who see no problem with pedophilia"?

JamesKrieger

If anyone is NOT cracking down on pedophilia, it is women's rights activists, generally speaking.

If anyone is NOT cracking down on pedophilia, it is civil rights activists, generally speaking.

If anyone is NOT cracking down on pedophilia, it is animal rights activists, generally speaking.

yguy, when are you going to realize that you are committing the fallacy of presupposition? It has been pointed out to you repeatedly, yet you ignore it.

yguy

Mr. Krieger, I wasn't born yesterday. I can smell a petty fault-finding mission a mile away. You've taken a bunch of quotes out of context and arranged them in such a way as to make them look contradictory. Anyone can do that to any set of ideas given the motive...and that you obviously have. And you're welcome to it. In any case, I'm not about to get suckered into an endless debate about nothing, which is what it would inevitably turn into.

Bad try, James.

JamesKrieger

Translation: yguy will simply handwave away these contradictions by stating they were taken out of context, without showing how they are taken out of context.

Wait, people, isn't this familiar? This is the same method that Christians use when you point out Bible contradictions! "No, there really isn't a contradiction...you are taking it out of context...."

Well, given that your argument completely lacks substance, you've done a good job of debating about nothing.

Interestingly, you constantly assert that your argument DOES have substance, and yet when we ask you to lay it out in a logical format, you refuse to do so.

Goober

ROFL!!!! JamesKrieger documents the evolution by critical selection of yguys ideas.

Using yguys logic: Let's prevent people from ever becoming priests, because a very small minority of them happen to be pedophiles.

Bad Kitty

This is a quote from yguy in another thread (When Does Life Begin), in which he found a nit to pick and used the above logic to explain how people who can't admit to "glaring contradictions" (even small ones!) are therefore not worth debating because they would obviously be unable to admit they are wrong about substantive issues.

Compare with his comment from this thread:

In which quote was he being... ironic?

Michelle

Treacle Worshipper

Originally posted by yguy
For those to whom this is not apparent, it would perhaps be helpful to ask when the RCC ever conferred any honors on an outspoken supporter of NAMBLA. I rather doubt they have - which cannot be said for the organizers of the San Francisco Pride Parade, which made Harry Hay its Grand Marshall in 1999.

OK, this is fair enough. However:

Interestingly, the sfpride site has a feature labeled "search gay web" which presumably searches sfpride and other "gay" sites...and for which the keyword "nambla" yields exactly zero results. Could it just possibly be that the leaders of such organizations have seen fit to keep their ties to NAMBLA a secret from the membership?

"If there were an invisible cat in that chair, the chair would look empty. The chair does look empty, therefore there is an invisible cat in it." (To nick an analogy from C S Lewis, who was, interestingly, talking about close male non-sexual friendships being thought to be gay. IIRC.)

May I just say, also:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TW

yguy

Amazing how many people are anxious to debate with me about "nothing", isn't it?

JamesKrieger

Actually, we are all anxious to point out how your argument completely lacks substance. Unfortunately, you still don't understand the flaws in your reasoning...for example, we have repeatedly shown to you how you commit non-sequiturs and the fallacy of presupposition, yet you ignore those problems with your reasoning.