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Godot · 06-17-2003, 05:47 PM

The loading phase is completely unnecessary unless you like wasting your money. I don't have a link handy, but some studies have compared eficacy with and without the loading phase and there was no appreciable difference. Hence, no need for the loading phase.
Kvahlion: it is necessary for you to eat something within 60-90 minutes post-workout to stop the catabolic processes that are occuring as you exercise. Current sports nutrition recommendations are for you to eat 50g of CHO and 5-10g of protein post-workout.

JGL53 · 06-18-2003, 10:13 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Godot
... Current sports nutrition recommendations are for you to eat 50g of CHO and 5-10g of protein post-workout. [/QUOTE

Or you could eat a six ounce steak or hamburger pattie, with perhaps some mushroom sauce or tomato pesto, plus some of your favorite cheese, and some peanut or almond butter - or whatever seems reasonable to you, the individual.

But back to the main topic. Godot, did you know that low-carb insanity has reached all the way to New Zealand now?

http://www.lowcarbnz.co.nz/bella.htm

Row your boat over to Christchurch and slap some sense into crazy old Margaret.

Nuno Figueira · 06-18-2003, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by Kvalhion
Thanks for the info! I ordered some capsules and will give it a shot. I doubt it is anything I'll do long term, as I am more concerned about losing fat than I am with building muscle. Other than water retention, it doesn't look like creatine would stall my fat loss, and a little extra boost in the gym while weightlifting wouldn't be a bad thing. I'll probably do the loading and a low maintenance dose (probably 5g day) for 8 weeks and see where I'm at. Apparently creatine doesn't help you much beyond 8 weeks. Some people reload at that point, others take a few months off before using it again.

The only problem I foresee is that I usually weightlift in the morning at work, and have been eating breakfast about 45 minutes before I work out rather than after. I can try to bring something with me and eat after I workout, I suppose, if that is what is necessary.

Thanks again!

Next time just buy the powder form, it's cheaper and as effective as it gets.

Kvalhion · 06-19-2003, 06:45 AM

You are right about the loading, Godot. It seems that six weeks into supplementing with creatine, there is no noticeable difference between those who loaded and those who did not. Since I do not need to see "fast results", I am just going to take a 5g/day for a while and see how it goes.

At this rate, taking 4 pills per day from a 300 pill bottle that costs $40 is pretty cheap. That comes out to about $16 a month. The pills are definitely more convenient for me because I won't be stirring the powder into a sugary drink to take.

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06-17-2003, 05:47 PM	#201
Godot Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,335	The loading phase is completely unnecessary unless you like wasting your money. I don't have a link handy, but some studies have compared eficacy with and without the loading phase and there was no appreciable difference. Hence, no need for the loading phase. Kvahlion: it is necessary for you to eat something within 60-90 minutes post-workout to stop the catabolic processes that are occuring as you exercise. Current sports nutrition recommendations are for you to eat 50g of CHO and 5-10g of protein post-workout.

06-18-2003, 10:13 AM	#202
JGL53 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outer Mongolia Posts: 4,091	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Godot ... Current sports nutrition recommendations are for you to eat 50g of CHO and 5-10g of protein post-workout. [/QUOTE Or you could eat a six ounce steak or hamburger pattie, with perhaps some mushroom sauce or tomato pesto, plus some of your favorite cheese, and some peanut or almond butter - or whatever seems reasonable to you, the individual. But back to the main topic. Godot, did you know that low-carb insanity has reached all the way to New Zealand now? http://www.lowcarbnz.co.nz/bella.htm Row your boat over to Christchurch and slap some sense into crazy old Margaret.

06-19-2003, 06:45 AM	#204
Kvalhion Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Southern CA Posts: 441	You are right about the loading, Godot. It seems that six weeks into supplementing with creatine, there is no noticeable difference between those who loaded and those who did not. Since I do not need to see "fast results", I am just going to take a 5g/day for a while and see how it goes. At this rate, taking 4 pills per day from a 300 pill bottle that costs $40 is pretty cheap. That comes out to about $16 a month. The pills are definitely more convenient for me because I won't be stirring the powder into a sugary drink to take.

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