The Admiral

Marduck

Maybe you have a point there. I need to lighten up. Maybe watching some tabloid tv would help. As a matter of fact, I don't watch tv. Once in awhile my wife will alert me to something she thinks might interest me.

And then there is that matter of age. I'm beginning to realize that I'm to the point that other people consider me to be an old man. As you say you weren't born yet. But I was a civilian flight instructor when the ufo craze began. It was discussed everywhere but even more so in the aviation field. You may recall hearing that the whole modern version of the ufo(there were old versions going back to the O.T.) started with a private pilot. He spotted a circle of lenticular clouds around the peak of a mountain and mistook them for solid objects. After his reports hit the media he exploited it for all it was worth which was quite a bit.

One of the very early flying saucer books was, "Flying Saucers Are Real" by Major Donald E Kehoe. Kehoe was genuine old time pilot who was well acquainted with Charles Lindberg. He described certain phenomena in certain geographical areas (between D.C. and Norfolk). I was thoroughly familiar with the area because I flew over it frequently. I observed the same phenomena that he did and recognized them for what they were. Why did Kehoe reach the conclusions he reached, while I, a much younger and less experienced person than Kehoe recognized the phenomena for what they were? Kehoe saw what he wanted to see, I saw what I saw.

The Admiral

Marduk

"Maybe you have a point there. I need to lighten up. Maybe watching some tabloid tv would help."

My favorite is the one they show on the History Channel quite often "Ancient Aliens"
But there are others, TLC had 12 hours of them last year, 3 hours a night for 4 nights in a row! I was in heaven!

sourdough

there are some vids of UFOs you might want to see
whether you believe in them or not see "Belgium ufos"
also UFOs Canada,(Yukon),so many people have seen some unusual things flying up there,maybe its just some secret military airplanes,maybe not.
on Unsolved mysteries tv show were some interesting UFO films too,while back.
since these things have been seen all over the world,even astronauts and airline pilots have seen something that didn't fly like airplanes do;
high speed maneuvers,stop and sudenly reverse direction etc,even military interceptor jets couldn't catch or get close to,
the posibility is it might have been some highly advanced visitors from elswhere,don't see why not.

crocodile deathroll

It's Space Junk!

The Admiral

Marduk

I have seen some of that stuff but I'm a go to bed early guy and I don't think it's worth staying up for.

Sourdough

I have been a pilot since 1946 and I spent 37 years as an airline pilot. I would love to believe in flying saucers from other solar systems but the evidence just isn't there. It's all explainable.

The Admiral

Jamie_L

It's interesting to note that the big UFO conspiracies started being reported around the time that human beings first started actually getting their own stuff into space.

It seems possible that prior to that people didn't think much about the possibility of aliens because they didn't think much about space at all. Then human kind opens up the next frontier, people start thinking about space, and suddenly UFO reports are everywhere. Maybe it's coincidence.

Maybe not.

Jamie

Whatup?

I've seen some drawings by people claiming to have seen UFOs back in the nineteenth century and the UFOs look just like what someone from that era might imagine an alien space craft would look like - real goofy with machinery that looks nineteenth centuryish. Wish I knew where to point them out on the web.

The Admiral

Actually the UFO thing started well before the first satellite was but in orbit. It was 46 or 47 when a private pilot whose name I can't quite remember reported seeing some things that he described as saucer shaped near Mt. Ranier. I think that what he saw was lenticular clouds which frequently form around moutain peaks.The Roswell incident occurred in 1947. The first sattellite, The Russian sputnik, was orbited in 1957.

The Admiral

Mageth

It was 46 or 47 when a private pilot whose name I can't quite remember reported seeing some things that he described as saucer shaped near Mt. Ranier.

<a href="http://www.project1947.com/fig/1947ka.htm" target="_blank">Kenneth Arnold.</a>

Corey Hammer

IN fact, you did see an (U)nidentified (F)lying (O)bject. People see them all the time. It doesn't mean they are spaceships, but they're objects, they're flying, and you don't know what they are.