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Dr Rick · 07-26-2002, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by GeoTheo:
...now I'm an evolutionist.

GeoTheo · 07-26-2002, 09:56 AM

I'm flattered. I thank Kenneth Miller also, otherwise I may have been an IDer. I think ID is just as bad but at first I didn't see why.
It is just a matter of degree. It hurts faith just as much by making falsifiable claims about a creator, that will eventually be proven false and rejected making God (or the space alien of the gaps

) smaller and smaller as the gaps get smaller.

mibby529 · 07-26-2002, 04:25 PM

Quite frankly, the Bible only presents the Judaic perspective. History is relative.

@lpetrich:
Good point about stopping at three. It's Numerologist's Fallacy: Assuming that we have a set number. For example, since there are seven known periods on the periodic table, and seven is considered divine by early Xian numerologists, they COULD assume that that was divine. Buuuuuuuttt...There could be an eighth and ninth period, with 50 elements each, and a tenth and eleventh with 72 elements each, etc.

Besides, which, Lakota add one's environmental, or social, characteristic to the aforementioned list. And we get four, OUR ceremonial number. What Xians fail to appreciate is that man doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Bubba · 07-27-2002, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by GeoTheo:
I There will be plenty of debates ahead with my uninformed brethren. Like last night when I told a friend at my church that the ICR type books he let me borrow
converted me to evolution because all the arguements could be refuted with science.

Amazing what evidence does, isn't it.

Bubba

Albion · 07-27-2002, 05:06 PM

Heh heh. Bet you ruined his whole day with that bit of news!

lpetrich · 07-27-2002, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by mibby529:
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Besides, which, Lakota add one's environmental, or social, characteristic to the aforementioned list. And we get four, OUR ceremonial number. What Xians fail to appreciate is that man doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Interestingly, in Chinese culture, "4" is considered an unlucky number, because the Chinese word for it sounds like the Chinese word for "death".

HRG · 07-27-2002, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by GeoTheo:
I guess this is kind of humorous in a way. I started posting on this thread when I was still willing to believe in literal 6 day creation and now I'm an evolutionist and I find the link I was looking for afterwards. I guess I just can't stand to loose an arguement. I kind of miss taking on all you evolutionists! Oh, well. There will be plenty of debates ahead with my uninformed brethren. Like last night when I told a friend at my church that the ICR type books he let me borrow
converted me to evolution because all the arguements could be refuted with science.

There is more rejoicing among us evilushionists over one reformed sinner than over 99 righteous people ...

Regards,
HRG.

RufusAtticus · 07-28-2002, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by lpetrich:


Interestingly, in Chinese culture, "4" is considered an unlucky number, because the Chinese word for it sounds like the Chinese word for "death".

I thought that was Japanese culture.

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07-26-2002, 09:56 AM	#122
GeoTheo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bemidji Posts: 1,197	I'm flattered. I thank Kenneth Miller also, otherwise I may have been an IDer. I think ID is just as bad but at first I didn't see why. It is just a matter of degree. It hurts faith just as much by making falsifiable claims about a creator, that will eventually be proven false and rejected making God (or the space alien of the gaps ) smaller and smaller as the gaps get smaller.

07-26-2002, 04:25 PM	#123
mibby529 Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cali Posts: 170	Quite frankly, the Bible only presents the Judaic perspective. History is relative. @lpetrich: Good point about stopping at three. It's Numerologist's Fallacy: Assuming that we have a set number. For example, since there are seven known periods on the periodic table, and seven is considered divine by early Xian numerologists, they COULD assume that that was divine. Buuuuuuuttt...There could be an eighth and ninth period, with 50 elements each, and a tenth and eleventh with 72 elements each, etc. Besides, which, Lakota add one's environmental, or social, characteristic to the aforementioned list. And we get four, OUR ceremonial number. What Xians fail to appreciate is that man doesn't exist in a vacuum.

07-27-2002, 05:06 PM	#125
Albion Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: US east coast. And www.theroyalforums.com Posts: 2,829	Heh heh. Bet you ruined his whole day with that bit of news!

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