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yguy · 07-18-2003, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Hedwig
No, actually, I was wondering what it would take to convince you that there is no link.

Whatever it is, the body of your post tells me that you, at least, haven't got it.

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You obviously see one if you go so far as to create this thread.

I've made no secret of that. People like you don't exactly dissuade me from that view.

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Homosexual activists have plenty of moral fiber on their own.

Would you cite the organizers of the NYC parade as examples of such moral fiber?

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And, as a member of the queer community, I can say that there are many things that I say "no" to.

I haven't heard you say no to NAMBLA yet.

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Why do you single us out in particular?

I went over that earlier.

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To give us a chance to distance ourselves? There's no need. We as individuals do that quite well enough on our own without having to distance ourselves from undesirable behavior just for your benefit.

At least a few of you obviously don't. Otherwise, NAMBLA wouldn't be in that parade.

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And don't pull the line that we're not doing it for you...you know damn well otherwise. I don't have a damn thing to prove to you. Neither does any other queer person active on these message boards. Neither does the homosexual community at large.

You need to understand something. Dr. Rick has assured me on another thread that all rights are granted by societal consensus. That means that what we have given, we can take away. Among the rights we can take away is the right to simulate copulation in public - and we should.

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Pedophiles, as has been pointed out to you, are largely heterosexual. I'd be more right starting a thread saying "Attention all heterosexual men" and calling on you to distance yourself from them. But I wouldn't. Because, by and large, I don't see the need.

If you did, you wouldn't see me waxing defensive towards heterosexuals who failed to do so, as you have for homosexuals.

yguy · 07-18-2003, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by Hedwig
Sweety, it's hardly an either/or situation.

Actually, you are horribly mistaken...honey pie.

yguy · 07-18-2003, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by Treacle Worshipper
May I suggest you go reduce your chances of prostate cancer.

I have been unjust to you somehow?

Nowhere357 · 07-19-2003, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by yguy
Actually, you are horribly mistaken...honey pie.

Yes, powerful argument, I see your point.

Thanks to such well thought out reasoning, your view is much easier to understand.

keyser_soze · 07-19-2003, 02:48 AM

The longer this thread continues, the more I see an odd mental process that I swear is not normal.....Medication should be sought.

Treacle Worshipper · 07-19-2003, 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by yguy
I have been unjust to you somehow?

You implied that, as I support equal rights for gay people, I must also necessarily support the rights of paedophiles to have sex with chiildren unless I specifically stated otherwise. I consider this unjust, yes.

support for gays rights != support for paedophilia.

And you really don't want to get prostate cancer. My uncle has it & the treatment is very unpleasant, even if it will hopefully work for him.

I ask again, have I distanced myself from advocates of paedophilia to your satisfaction?

TW

yguy · 07-19-2003, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by Treacle Worshipper
You implied that, as I support equal rights for gay people, I must also necessarily support the rights of paedophiles to have sex with chiildren unless I specifically stated otherwise.

But I didn't do that. I'm perfectly aware that there are others on your side of the issue that have failed to respond to this thread for whatever reason. Unless I know that reason, I can't properly make a judgment, so I don't.

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support for gays rights != support for paedophilia.

For about the hundredth time, I never said that. Now, if you said "support for the NYC Gay Pride Parade = support for NAMBLA", I could probably go for that.

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I ask again, have I distanced myself from advocates of paedophilia to your satisfaction?

Not sure why you care, but yes. I sure as heck can't say that about all the respondents.

yguy · 07-19-2003, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by keyser_soze
The longer this thread continues, the more I see an odd mental process that I swear is not normal.....Medication should be sought.

Actually, I doubt that would do Hedwig or Fr. Andrew much good.

keyser_soze · 07-19-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by yguy
Unless I know that reason, I can't properly make a judgment, so I don't.

The irony is of epic proportions....:banghead:

Nowhere357 · 07-19-2003, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by keyser_soze
The irony is of epic proportions....:banghead:

It really is epic. I drafted several responses to that, then recycled them all - the bs is just too deep for me. I can't dig that fast.

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